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IRS to require businesses to certify they aren't firing workers due to Obamacare
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:28 pm
quote:
Treasury officials said Monday that businesses will be told to "certify" that they are not shedding full-time workers simply to avoid the mandate. Officials said employers will be told to sign a "self-attestation" on their tax forms affirming this, under penalty of perjury.
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:30 pm to MFn GIMP
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IRS to require businesses to certify they aren't firing workers due to Obamacare
None of their business. You can fire workers for whatever reason you want.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:32 pm to MFn GIMP
politiceaux's thread is about this, although the title is less direct
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:33 pm to 90proofprofessional
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politiceaux's thread is about this, although the title is less direct
I missed his thread when I searched the first page. I'll RA.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:34 pm to MFn GIMP
Saw this on the news last night.
So if the employer mandate doesn't apply b/c you have less than 50 employees, you be f'ed. Unfortunately, that also applies to me directly
So if the employer mandate doesn't apply b/c you have less than 50 employees, you be f'ed. Unfortunately, that also applies to me directly
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:35 pm to MFn GIMP
Seems like you'd be better off saying you did fire them because of obamacare. No risk of perjury hanging over your head.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:49 pm to MFn GIMP
I truly hope that John Roberts never gets another night's sleep knowing that he could have killed this fricking abomination in its crib when he had the chance.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:19 pm to wilfont
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Seems like you'd be better off saying you did fire them because of obamacare. No risk of perjury hanging over your head.
What?
Maybe you're better off just conducting your business and not swearing any oaths to the government that you don't have to.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:20 pm to MFn GIMP
quote:
I missed his thread when I searched the first page. I'll RA.
That's because it took until page 3 for them to figure out what they were outraged over.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:24 pm to MFn GIMP
Business owners should say that they did fire workers to get under 50, and attach a picture of their a-hole. 
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:28 pm to MFn GIMP
So your choices are:
A: Do what we say and go out of business.
B: Go to jail.
Gotcha.
A: Do what we say and go out of business.
B: Go to jail.
Gotcha.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:34 pm to elprez00
Ok. I'm confused.
What are the repercussions of firing employees due to the employer mandate and being upfront about it?
Is the implication that there will be consequences for businesses that fire employees for this reason?
If so, that's a huge "Oh, shite" moment.
What are the repercussions of firing employees due to the employer mandate and being upfront about it?
Is the implication that there will be consequences for businesses that fire employees for this reason?
If so, that's a huge "Oh, shite" moment.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 4:41 pm to Scoop
quote:
What are the repercussions of firing employees due to the employer mandate and being upfront about it?
You have to implement the ACA at your business by January 2015.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 5:51 pm to MFn GIMP
They are forcing this so the Dems can say see, businesses are not downsizing due to Obamacare.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:06 pm to MFn GIMP
Dear IRS,
Fees
Unable to
Compensate for
Keeping employees
You
Obviously
Understand
Fees
Unable to
Compensate for
Keeping employees
You
Obviously
Understand
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:15 pm to udtiger
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I truly hope that John Roberts never gets another night's sleep knowing that he could have killed this fricking abomination in its crib when he had the chance.
Yep. The SCOTUS should've nuked this POS to hell when they had the chance.
But unbelievably, those pansies were more worried about keeping the court above politics.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:23 pm to MFn GIMP
quote:Businesses affected by this should:
Treasury officials said Monday that businesses will be told to "certify" that they are not shedding full-time workers simply to avoid the mandate. Officials said employers will be told to sign a "self-attestation" on their tax forms affirming this, under penalty of perjury.
1. Obtain the required IRS exemption form
2. Write "I did not do anything wrong. I plead the 5th Amendment. (Thanks, Lois Lerner.)" on it.
3. File an appeal/suit if (when) the IRS rejects the exemption.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:32 pm to TigerTattle
Hate to be working at some place with more than 50 employees..Would be scared of every step I made...
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:37 pm to Sentrius
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Yep. The SCOTUS should've nuked this POS to hell when they had the chance.
But unbelievably, those pansies were more worried about keeping the court above politics
It SO fricking burns me how people were lauding the decision as a strong retrenchment of the Commerce Clause, while completely ignoring the completely limitless power he granted to Congress under the taxing power.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:37 pm to Sentrius
quote:
I truly hope that John Roberts never gets another night's sleep knowing that he could have killed this fricking abomination in its crib when he had the chance.
Guilty of fricking treason IMO. He had to have been paid off.
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