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Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:58 pm to PrimeTime Money
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It's not even the drugs that are the root cause. These kids are all messed up before they ever get caught up in drugs.
Part of that is the lack of father figures around...because they are in prison for drugs.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:58 pm to GEAUXmedic
Get rid of welfare and anything that incentivizes mothers shitting out more kids just so they get more monies from the government. This will discourage single mother hood, having babies out of wedlock and absent fathers.
Keep abortion legal and birth control easily accessible.
Keep abortion legal and birth control easily accessible.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:59 pm to HempHead
Yeah I'm sure they would have stuck around and been good fatherly figures to their kids if they weren't in prison for drug offenses.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Yeah I'm sure they would have stuck around and been good fatherly figures to their kids if they weren't in prison for drug offenses.
It's certainly more likely than the status quo.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:11 pm to PrimeTime Money
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These kids are all messed up before they ever get caught up in drugs.
It's not the drugs that make them kill. It is the fact that black market economies do not have courts and lawyers to resolve their differences. Gangs don't meet for arbitration. Their only method of resolving disputes is violence. The gangs start early. 2nd graders are full of questions like "how old is the world?" "Where do babies come from?" "Why is the sky blue?" Somewhere between 4th and 6th grade, children lose their curiosity about the world, and resent learning of any kind. "Why do I have to learn this?" "Will I ever use this?" "How does this help my life?" They see a life style to emulate on television, on their radios, in their magazines. They know few people who have real jobs, and those who do have jobs work long hours in shitty service positions for next to no money. Those who don't work recieve handouts. They see the handouts as easier. Since they don't need jobs, they don't see the need to get good grades in school, so they don't study, and don't want to learn, because what middle and high schools teach is basically useless to someone who has no interest in going to college. They become disingaged.
Welfare works like this: if you lack means, they give you everything. However, if you save too much money by being responsible and getting a job, not only do they cut you off, but they make you pay it all back. So, if you try to become independent, they take everything you have and put you back at square one. However, if you don't keep your money in a bank, and you get your money on the black market, it doesn't count against you. The government can't punish you for money it doesn't know you have. So, the government takes care of your basic needs (food, housing, healthcare, phone service, ect) and the illicit income can be used as disposable income (alcohol, clothing, electionics, cars, ect). Of course, owning anything counts against you, but leasing doesn't.
Basically, the entirety of our welfare and tax code encourages people to:
A. never save money
B. lease, not own
C. have illegal income
D. never work
E. slum lords neglect their properties
F. don't do well in school
G. never use banks
H. never have decent credit
I: Have as many kids as possible (you get paid per kid)
J: Never get married (2 single parents get more money than a married couple with the same number of kids)
K: and never try to get out of poverty
It's a trap. It's always been a trap.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:11 pm to HempHead
It would take DECADES to fix the issue, Dr. Carson may be the one to get the ball rolling.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:13 pm to texag7
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Send in the national guard. Patrol the worst neighborhoods nightly like Englewood (9 people shot there since 5pm yesterday)
This avenue would be a good starting point
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:13 pm to SouthernHog
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It would take DECADES to fix the issue, Dr. Carson may be the one to get the ball rolling.
It didn't take that long for the ghettos to get the way they are. By the mid-70's, they were already drug and gang infested dangerous places. The Great Society was passed in 1964. If it can go to hell that fast, it can come back from it in the same time period.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:18 pm to GEAUXmedic
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The only thing they need is a dose of hard reality and military policing (cause local police obviously cant handle it) to fix their problems, thats the only thing that will fix it.
You cannot police your way out of the drug-related violence. As long as you have criminals dealing and addicts using, the violence will not go away.
We made huge strides for decades, but we have run into another drug (heroin and related drugs) epidemic. More addicts, more business, more violence.
Solutions:
1. Legalizing weed will shrink the size of the illegal market. Then, the taxes go towards...
2. Rehab programs to reduce demand for harder drugs.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:19 pm to GEAUXmedic
1. Ban Section 8 or at the very least large swaths of it.
2. Enforce "broken windows theory" harshly.
3. Police profiling using compstat.
None of those 3 will ever really be done these days though.... Because "racist".
Liberal pc culture is destroying these neighborhoods. Kinda ironic in a sense.
2. Enforce "broken windows theory" harshly.
3. Police profiling using compstat.
None of those 3 will ever really be done these days though.... Because "racist".
Liberal pc culture is destroying these neighborhoods. Kinda ironic in a sense.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:23 pm to GEAUXmedic
Getting the Community Organizer in Chief out of office is a good first step. Obama has done nothing but embolden thug culture and his done his best to undermine law and order.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:26 pm to OchoDedos
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Public executions
And when the condemned is being brought up for the deed, have "Renegade" playing in the background.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:27 pm to kingbob
I regret I have only 1 upvote to give.
Follow up question:
Who benefits from the status quo?
Follow up question:
Who benefits from the status quo?
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:31 pm to kingbob
Excellent list, Bob. The key is that it has to be a generational breaking of the cycle.
There is a very good argument for being on welfare. If you don't have a HS education and you get the equivalent of $15 an hour in various forms of welfare and subsidies for housing and energy then why would you give that up for a $10 an hour job at Burger King?
The answer is your children. They will see Mommy wake up early in the morning, get dressed appropriately and go to work. As opposed to seeing Mommy sleep till noon and then watch her stories on TV all day.
Children mimic what they see you do more than what they hear you tell them.
There is a very good argument for being on welfare. If you don't have a HS education and you get the equivalent of $15 an hour in various forms of welfare and subsidies for housing and energy then why would you give that up for a $10 an hour job at Burger King?
The answer is your children. They will see Mommy wake up early in the morning, get dressed appropriately and go to work. As opposed to seeing Mommy sleep till noon and then watch her stories on TV all day.
Children mimic what they see you do more than what they hear you tell them.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:36 pm to Zach
The counter is your children. Without welfare, that $10/he job flipping burgers will not make enough money to buy them food, clothing, healthcare, or shelter. You will make just enough to lose your benefits, and nowhere near enough to afford living without them. As I said, it's a f$&king trap.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:38 pm to GEAUXmedic
Give them all a rifle, a pistol, and 10k rounds. They'll kill themselves off. No mo crime.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:45 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Who benefits:
Public schools with federal funding, teachers unions, and processed foods
Bureaucrats, democrats, and police officers too
Landlords, vice lords, telecom
Guns, Gamblers, and drug kings
Farmers, immigrants, Race-pimps, republicans
Everybody sing!
Who benefits from the cycle of poverty?
Who is it that stands to gain?
Why everyone in politics except
The poor, the old, the maimed!
Hey!
Churches, fast foods, convenience stores
And bail bondsmen too
Check into cash, gun makers, trash
and planned parenthood, true
they all profit from this sick game
that keeps poor people trapped, like you
Who benefits from the cycle of poverty?
Who is it that stands to gain?
Why everyone in politics except
Taxpayers and those that need a hand!
Public schools with federal funding, teachers unions, and processed foods
Bureaucrats, democrats, and police officers too
Landlords, vice lords, telecom
Guns, Gamblers, and drug kings
Farmers, immigrants, Race-pimps, republicans
Everybody sing!
Who benefits from the cycle of poverty?
Who is it that stands to gain?
Why everyone in politics except
The poor, the old, the maimed!
Hey!
Churches, fast foods, convenience stores
And bail bondsmen too
Check into cash, gun makers, trash
and planned parenthood, true
they all profit from this sick game
that keeps poor people trapped, like you
Who benefits from the cycle of poverty?
Who is it that stands to gain?
Why everyone in politics except
Taxpayers and those that need a hand!
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 1/14/17 at 4:02 pm to GEAUXmedic
Declare national state of emergency and have the National Guard policing the streets, going house to house speaking with every member of the community to let them know that they are there to protect them and provide a safe environment for their children. Drug dogs units everywhere. Stop and frisk.
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