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If your Going To Kill Oil Have Electric Cars Ready In The Millions

Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1921 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:25 pm
These dumbass fricks are so god damn fricking stupid I want to drop kick all of them, then kick them some more. You want to kill oil and tout green clean energy!? Then have millions of electric cars in the Ford/dodge/Chevrolet parking lots ready for consumers to buy to get on the road! If not then keep the flow of oil going!!!!!!
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1312 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:28 pm to
Don't electric vehicles have a much larger carbon footprint than their fossil fuel counterparts?

Electric cars:good for the environment::masks:save us from covid
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:28 pm to
A $600 check is apparently a pretty big deal to most Americans. Hard for me to believe they’re in any position to all buy a brand new electric car.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3485 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:29 pm to
Pelosi’s husband has just bought a little bit of Tesla, $ one million

LINK https://www.foxbusiness.com/
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8915 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:30 pm to
What do you think is used to charge those cars.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21909 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:31 pm to
Wait until the Democrats figure out that power plants burn coal and other fossil fuels to generate the electricity that all those electric cars will need
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8085 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:32 pm to
Good luck during a hurricane evacuation.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8584 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:36 pm to
Our grid can't even handle everyone charging their cars overnight. We'll look like North Korea with all the blackouts.

The best tech we could possibly invent is to somehow make every house updated with off the grid technology. Businesses, apartments, etc. that have higher power needs would still need to be on the grid but we're real close to being able to make every homr self sufficient.

It's a more achievable goal than EV cars.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6916 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:37 pm to
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Good luck during a hurricane evacuation.


Good luck running a generator.
Posted by Evolve
Texas
Member since Aug 2012
3117 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:38 pm to
There is a lot of dumb in the op post... and I work in OG.
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
2816 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:40 pm to
The president of Toyota says there isn't enough electrity generated if only electric cars are allowed. That means more power plants are needed. Democrats hate power plants. Something has to give.
Posted by Tyrusrex
Member since Jul 2011
907 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:41 pm to
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Don't electric vehicles have a much larger carbon footprint than their fossil fuel counterparts?

Actually no LINk
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9175 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:46 pm to
Institute for Energy Research - Environmental Impact of Lithium Batteries

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Now Biden is planning to transition the transportation sector to electric vehicles that are powered by lithium batteries and require other critical metals where China dominates the market. Mining and processing of lithium, however, turns out to be far more environmentally harmful than what turned out to be the unfounded issues with fracking.


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In May 2016, dead fish were found in the waters of the Liqi River, where a toxic chemical leaked from the Ganzizhou Rongda Lithium mine. Cow and yak carcasses were also found floating downstream, dead from drinking contaminated water. It was the third incident in seven years due to a sharp increase in mining activity, including operations run by China’s BYD, one of the world’ biggest supplier of lithium-ion batteries. After the second incident in 2013, officials closed the mine, but fish started dying again when it reopened in April 2016.


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The lithium extraction process uses a lot of water—approximately 500,000 gallons per metric ton of lithium. To extract lithium, miners drill a hole in salt flats and pump salty, mineral-rich brine to the surface. After several months the water evaporates, leaving a mixture of manganese, potassium, borax and lithium salts which is then filtered and placed into another evaporation pool. After between 12 and 18 months of this process, the mixture is filtered sufficiently that lithium carbonate can be extracted.


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As in Tibet, there is the potential for toxic chemicals to leak from the evaporation pools into the water supply including hydrochloric acid, which is used in the processing of lithium, and waste products that are filtered out of the brine. In Australia and North America, lithium is mined from rock using chemicals to extract it into a useful form. In Nevada, researchers found impacts on fish as far as 150 miles downstream from a lithium processing operation.


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Lithium extraction harms the soil and causes air contamination. In Argentina’s Salar de Hombre Muerto, residents believe that lithium operations contaminated streams used by humans and livestock and for crop irrigation. In Chile, the landscape is marred by mountains of discarded salt and canals filled with contaminated water with an unnatural blue hue. According to Guillermo Gonzalez, a lithium battery expert from the University of Chile, “This isn’t a green solution – it’s not a solution at all.”


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China is among the five top countries with the most lithium resources and it has been buying stakes in mining operations in Australia and South America where most of the world’s lithium reserves are found. China’s Tianqi Lithium owns 51 percent of the world’s largest lithium reserve in Australia, giving it a controlling interest. In 2018, the company became the second-largest shareholder in Sociedad Química y Minera—the largest lithium producer in Chile. Another Chinese company, Ganfeng Lithium, has a long-term agreement to underwrite all lithium raw materials produced by Australia’s Mount Marion mine—the world’s second-biggest, high-grade lithium reserve.


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It is estimated that between 2021 and 2030, about 12.85 million tons of EV lithium ion batteries will go offline worldwide, and over 10 million tons of lithium, cobalt, nickel and manganese will be mined for new batteries. China is being pushed to increase battery recycling since repurposed batteries could be used as backup power systems for China’s 5G stations or reused in shared e-bikes, which would save 63 million tons of carbon emissions from new battery manufacturing.


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Environmentalists expressed unfounded concerns about fracking, but they need to be worried about replacing fossil fuels in the transportation and electric generating sector with electric vehicles and renewable energy where lithium, cobalt and other critical metals are needed to produce these technologies. Mining, processing, and disposing of these metals can contaminate the drinking water, land and environment if done improperly as seen from several examples. And, since China dominates the global market, it just switches what once was U.S. reliance on the Middle East to U.S. reliance on the People’s Republic.



Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19528 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:49 pm to

The point of getting rid of fossil fuels has nothing to do with electricity, and nothing to do with environmentalism.

It’s about destroying 2 large economic pillars in this country at the same time: Big Oil and the auto industry.

Have to cripple and discredit the current system so people will want the replacement. Which will be so much worse.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53842 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:52 pm to
They don’t want to kill oil, they want to kill oil produced in the US and kill US jobs so they can cut deals overseas. They or totally OK with oil and gas companies in Ukraine remember Hunter was on the board.

Our government spends every waking moment trying tonfigure out how to separate us from our money so they can move it around the world and eventually enrich themselves.

It’s simple really. We are all pussies and we are afraid to take our government back!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:52 pm to
What is the range on an electric vehicle and what is the recharge time once expended to be able to drive again?

I make runs one weekend a month of roughly 350 miles in each direction with a minimum of stopping. And if I were to run out of power, at BEST I would be in a high crime urban area but more likely I would be in the woods between small towns.

An electric car is a non-starter for these purposes.
Posted by nugget
Mostly Peaceful Poster
Member since Dec 2009
13816 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:53 pm to
So, by your link, coal fired power is still dirtier than gasoline or diesel vehicles. Did you know much of Louisiana’s grid is powered by large coal turbines? I guess we are exempt.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2386 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:53 pm to
I’m content. Will take a very long time for glorified golf carts to take over combustion, fuel infrastructure. Either way, energy is required and oil/nat gas will be required.
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1447 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:54 pm to
Electric cars are going to have problems.

Range anxiety
Grid capacity
Road Tax issues
But the biggest
Consumer acceptance

Toyota is betting big on Hydrogen. I have a lot of faith in Toyota's insights.

They are building Hydrogen fueling stations in Cali. Leasing Hydrogen cars. driving their cost down.

Hydrogen is now made as a by product of O&G processing. But they are working on getting it from water (H2O)

I would rather good old gasoline me!!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:55 pm to
These idiots are the same people who think they can issue top down responses to all 50 states using the same assumptions that apply to major urban areas like LA, NYC, Chicago, etc.

Someone in Montana could drive across half the state and possibly see only a few cars if they aren’t near one of a very few big towns.
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