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re: If they do this to our food, and they do this to our water

Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:24 pm to
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Is Dow Chemical bad?


Yeah. It is.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:49 pm to
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Sleeping Tiger



Why the hiatus from this board?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:56 pm to
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Yeah. It is.



How so?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:06 pm to
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How so?


Dale, your name is Dale.

You live in a tiny bubble of information. You're probably real simple like. You probably relate to cousin Eddie in the 'vacation' series. Honestly, it's best you stay where you are.

This isn't how one goes about an existential awakening, it's just not going to happen for you.

Dow's bad. Their history is bad. Their current role in our lives are bad. They're largely to blame for the criminalization of a crop that has zero intoxicating effects, but would uproot their industry and others. I don't care to indulge you with a full answer. Honestly, you're not worth it.



Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:29 pm to
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quote: Dale, your name is Dale.

You live in a tiny bubble of information. You're probably real simple like. You probably relate to cousin Eddie in the 'vacation' series. Honestly, it's best you stay where you are.

This isn't how one goes about an existential awakening, it's just not going to happen for you.

Dow's bad. Their history is bad. Their current role in our lives are bad. They're largely to blame for the criminalization of a crop that has zero intoxicating effects, but would uproot their industry and others. I don't care to indulge you with a full answer. Honestly, you're not worth it.

And you wonder why people laugh at you??
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:40 pm to
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Dow's bad. Their history is bad. Their current role in our lives are bad




This is just silly intellectual laziness.

All you're doing is repeating the claim using slightly different words.

I understand the claim
My question was to what you based that claim on.

Do you understand the difference?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:31 pm to
And my answer was -- you're not worth it, and more importantly that debate isn't worth it.

Not here to sharpen up my position against Dow Chemical and waste a Sunday evening.

If you need to be told why one of the worlds largest producers of toxic waste who long ago played a key role in outlawing a harmless crop given to us by nature because it threatened the future of their business -- not to mention a thousand other reason's they're shite, then I don't think an internet post, no matter how persuasive is gong to help you. You're long gone.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:32 pm to
Hipgnosis.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4855 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:01 am to
Donald said "they" (the people who control political power) "rig the media, they can wield absolute power over your life, your economy and your country, and benefit big-time by it". Donald also said "they" "control what you hear, and what you don't hear, what is covered, how it's covered, even if it's covered at all".

The above quotes are from a speech Donald gave in St. Augustine, Florida, on October 24, 2016. I first heard them on MSNBC.

You may need to be fluent in Idiocratic Trumpery (or Inauthentic Authenticity) to understand the quotes, though. It's essentially a nonliteral language of nonsense. Many right-wingers think it's Grrrreat!
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:05 am to
What is this facebook now?
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4855 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:09 am to
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old age


I ain't ever getting older.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:45 am to
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How so?


He's not interested in being debated. In his mind his positions are infallible and if you don't understand it the way he does then you aren't worth his time. Mind you, if you nail him on the specifics he'll back off and tell you that he's a generalist and you're going to deep for the purpose of trying to make him look bad.

He also has a bad habit of stealing ideas and whole paragraphs and passing it off as his own. Additionally, he will tends to use fringe, poorly sourced, if not outright false information or quotes to back up his arguments i.e. Ben Franklin's non real quote about Colonial Scrip.

You're best off either not responding to him or making him so mad that he won't respond to you.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 5:45 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 6:44 am to
Below is part of my response to similar question in a different thread:

If I were trying to design a society (or a market for pharmaceuticals...) that was:

Obese
Apathetic
Testosterone deficient
Cognitively impaired

I would have them eating and drinking the crap our society does....


Undervalued response (primary prevention through practical lifestyle recommendations and PROPER dietary recommendations for the masses...):

Below addresses food quality and exposures....

quote:

9 Steps To Perfect Health


non-pdf version


quote:

Despite these considerable advances, we’re sicker and fatter than ever before. Consider the following:
Excess weight now accounts for one in three deaths among middle aged people in the US each year.
• A billion people around the world suffer from diabetes and obesity.
• 600 thousand people die of heart attacks in the US each year.

• One-third of Americans suffer from high blood pressure, which contributes to almost 800 thousand strokes every year.
• 50 million people in the US—one in six Americans—suffer from autoimmune diseases like Hashimoto’s, rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, and Crohn’s disease.
• Depression is now the leading cause of disability, affecting more than 120 million people worldwide.
Unfortunately, there’s every indication that things are going to get worse before they get better. This is the first generation of American children that are expected to live shorter lifespans than their parents. If current trends continue, 95 percent of Americans are expected to be overweight or obese within two decades, and one in three will suffer from diabetes.


See link below with mTOR (IGF-1 pathway)

quote:

Finding a Balance Between Building and Repair: Part 1


LINK

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Finding a Balance Between Building and Repair: Part 2 Intermittent Fasting


LINK





Ever wonder why obese people look older than their stated age...

quote:

Building (growth) is an anabolic process that happens when mTOR is turned on. Stimuli such as resistance training and eating protein (especially the branched-chain amino acid leucine) turn the mTOR switch on. The hormone insulin also turns on the mTOR building pathway. This effect of insulin should come as no surprise to readers of Strong Medicine (SM pages 107-108) as we discussed insulin as a hormone of growth and storage.

As Dan Cenidoza covered in his Strength after Sixty post, the anabolic pathways of building are crucial to grow and maintain muscle mass especially as we age. Not enough of “turning on” the mTOR switch can lead to sarcopenia and frailty in old age.

At the extreme end of the mTOR building pathway is cancer. By the simplest definition, cancer is uncontrolled cell growth. Recent science has shown that many cancer cells have abnormally high mTOR signaling, putting them is a perpetual state of growth. People with insulin resistance (SM p. 180) have higher levels of insulin in their bloodstream at all times which keeps the mTOR switch activated. Thus, it is no surprise that those with insulin resistance/diabetes are known to have increase risk of cancer.

We also now know that high levels of sustained mTOR activation can lead to accelerating aging in many species, including humans. With this information in mind, it becomes evident that getting the proper “dose” of mTOR activation is key.

We need enough “turning on” the mTOR building (growth) switch to prevent the loss of muscle mass so crucial for healthy aging, but no so much that we accelerate the aging process and become at increased risk for diseases such as cancer.


mTOR is always {ON} in our ever sicker/obese population of folks eating multiple small meals of mainly carbohydrate/sugar centric fare (AS THEY WERE ADVISED TO...)

This road to hell was paved with the "good intentions" of trying to avoid dietary fat/cholesterol...

"Different/radical" response (rethinking what we know about cancer...)

quote:

Potential Tactics for Defeating Cancer — A Toolkit in 1,000 Words


LINK

see the links at the bottom of the piece linked above (and listed below)

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There is a deluge of writing about cancer.

Below, I’ve suggested a top-10 list of articles as starting points. Some are for lay audiences, some are technical, but all are worth the time to read. Here you go:

Looking for articles to pass to your parents, or to read as a lay person? Read these, in this order:
1. Non-technical talk by Craig Thompson, Pres/CEO of Sloan-Kettering
2. Science piece written about cancer (for non-technical audience) by Gary Taubes

Have a little background and want the 80/20 analysis, the greatest bang for the buck? Read this:
3. Relatively non-technical review article on the Warburg Effect written by Vander Heiden, Thompson, and Cantley

Peaking on modafinil during a flight to Tokyo? Want to deep dive for a few hours? Here are three recommendations, in this order:
4. Detailed review article by Tom Seyfried
5. Review article on the role of carb restriction in the treatment and prevention of cancer
6. Talk given by author of above paper for those who prefer video

Want four bonus reads, all very good? As you wish:
7. Moderately technical review article by Shaw and Cantley
8. Clinical paper on the role of metformin in breast cancer by Ana Gonzalez-Angulo
9. Mouse study by Dom D’Agostino’s group examining role of ketogenic diet and hyperbaric oxygen on a very aggressive tumor model
10. Mechanistic study by Feinman and Fine assessing means by which acetoacetate (a ketone body) suppresses tumor growth in human cancer cell lines


LINK
NY Times Article..

quote:

An Old Idea, Revived:
Starve Cancer to Death
In the early 20th century, the German biochemist Otto Warburg
believed that tumors could be treated by disrupting their source
of energy. His idea was dismissed for decades — until now.

BY SAM APPLEMAY 12, 2016
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 6:45 am
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:51 am to
If you are smart and knowledgeable, you will never drink tap water. You should also be wary of bottled water.

Food is even less trustworthy. I was working on my own greenhouse and garden to insure that I would have a supply of safe food.

But, the chart leaves out EMF, a huge cause of cancer.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:53 am to
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If you are smart and knowledgeable, you will never drink tap water. You should also be wary of bottled water.


So... if you can't drink water from a tap and you can't drink water from a bottle, what do you do? Catch it in rain barrels? Go to a nearby stream and dip a bucket into it?
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:55 am to
I said you have to be wary of bottled water. Don't get the drinking water. Get spring water from a reputable spring.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:58 am to


Steering wheel on wrong side

Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:01 am to
I don't get it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:03 am to
That's because you don't understand how the global powers work
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:03 am to
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Don't get the drinking water. Get spring water from a reputable spring.


I've noticed with even the spring water companies now, you have to look extra closely to make sure you're getting spring water and not municipal water supplied crap.
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