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re: If they do this to our food, and they do this to our water

Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:23 pm to
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Heavy metals is mostly what I'm talking about.


How does the process work? How are these "toxins" eliminated?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:26 pm to
The overall incidence of cancer is increasing primarily because people are living longer. Cancer is a disease that overwhelming prefers the 65+ crowd, and the percentage of the population in that age bracket will continue to grow.

The incidence of cancer in people less than 65 has actually decreased as the years have gone on. This is due to decreased rates of smoking among younger generations and decreased occupational exposures to coal dust and manufacturing chemicals, incredibly effective colon cancer screening that catches polyps before becoming cancerous, decreased incidence of hepatitis b/c in younger generations, HPV vaccinations, etc.
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:28 pm to
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How does the process work? How are these "toxins" eliminated?


https://www.webmd.com/balance/tc/chelation-therapy-topic-overview

Did you really think this stuff was made up?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:29 pm to
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not the rate at which people get it.


What are you basing that on? You claim is not that the rates are flat or decreasing, your claim was that they are increasing.

How is this known? How are the figures adjusted for the increase in both the screening frequency and ability to accurately detect because of advances in methodology?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:32 pm to
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It's far too common for people to experience some form of cancer and to deny that the assortment of external factors are a cause of that is nothing short of disgusting.


Are you claiming that cancer is not a natural condition and comes mostly from....wait for it....man made conditions?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:48 pm to
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Did you really think this stuff was made up?


Here's the equivalent of webmd.




[quote]LINK ]

The difference is, you seem to be conflating over the counter/health food store oral concoctions with specific procedures performed at a medical facility treating cases of extreme heavy metal poisonings.


Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:50 pm to
Never change, Mograyback.

How's the grape stomping business these days?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by tigger42day
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:03 pm to
This ^^^^
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:06 pm to
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re: If they do this to our food, and they do this to our waterPosted on 12/4/16 at 3:03 pm to Roger Klarvin This ^^^^



?? Who are "they" and what are you claiming they are doing?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:29 pm to
been a long time Mogray!
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:39 pm to
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The incidence of cancer in people less than 65 has actually decreased as the years have gone on. This is due to decreased rates of smoking among younger generations and decreased occupational exposures to coal dust and manufacturing chemicals, incredibly effective colon cancer screening that catches polyps before becoming cancerous, decreased incidence of hepatitis b/c in younger generations, HPV vaccinations, etc.


You know why this is selectively inaccurate. You do. You don't want to admit that you do, but you do. I hope. Otherwise you're an idiot. When does your timeline start? What types of cancers have increased in comparison to the ones that have decreased, and how does that impact these stats? Pathetic, like always.

To deny that external factors influence someone getting cancer is beyond pathetic.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:47 pm to
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You know why this is selectively inaccurate. You do. You don't want to admit that you do, but you do. I hope. Otherwise you're an idiot. When does your timeline start? What types of cancers have increased in comparison to the ones that have decreased, and how does that impact these stats? Pathetic, like always.


I was just correcting some misleading information. Take your Prozac and calm down.

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To deny that external factors influence someone getting cancer is beyond pathetic.


Nobody is denying that, least of all me. Roughly half of all cancers are attributed to known exposures (smoking, alcohol abuse, asbestos, etc.)
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:53 pm to
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I was just correcting some misleading information.


What you provided was misleading. It's selective on multiple levels.

You're a joke. No interest in discussion with a manipulative little twat like you who's disgustingly protective of something he's personally invested in. Internet forums and 'winning' don't matter. The jokers who will validate you and shite on me don't mean anything.


Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:54 pm to
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You know why this is selectively inaccurate.


So what is it that you're claiming?? Modern society and it's advancements are causing an increase in cancer?....or what?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:55 pm to
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No interest in discussion with a manipulative little twat like you who's disgustingly protective of something he's personally invested in. Internet forums and 'winning' don't matter. The jokers who will validate you and shite on me don't mean anything.


You're going to need a lot of therapy.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:00 pm to
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What you provided was misleading. It's selective on multiple levels.


You're welcome to address and refute it, or discuss specifically what part you don't understand or find misleading.

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You're a joke. No interest in discussion with a manipulative little twat like you who's disgustingly protective of something he's personally invested in. Internet forums and 'winning' don't matter. The jokers who will validate you and shite on me don't mean anything.


Your emotional responses are WAY out of proportion to the discussion at hand. Everyone else here is managing to stay calm.

I'm curious as to why you think I have a vested interest in protecting the industries attacked in your OP.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:03 pm to
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So what is it that you're claiming??


I'm curious as well. His OP attacked practices in the produce and water industries, and now he's bent out of shape over declining cancer rates in young people.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:06 pm to
So tell me what they're doing to the water in pic #2
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