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re: If the Tax Cuts get passed, Trump wins the 2020 election. Period

Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21865 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:53 pm to
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Well cutting the corporate rate could actually increase revenues. Take companies like Apple for an example. They park their intellectual property in Ireland where the corporate rate is 12.5%.


15%>12.5%
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:53 pm to
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You want it to give tax cuts to millionaires


shite, when did I become a millionaire?!
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21865 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:55 pm to
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shite, when did I become a millionaire?!


Never, which is the joke!
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13063 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:00 pm to
Absolutely NO CHANCE that the Trump tax bullet points pass in any form resembling those talking points. Many Repubs in both houses won't vote for something that obviously will widen the deficit in 2018 and 2019 and 2020. And Repub Congressmen from NY and CA and PA will be enough to make sure we don't lose the state and local taxes deduction.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26123 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:04 pm to
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If the Tax Cuts get passed, Trump wins the 2020 election

I don't think so at all. These Republican tax cuts will balloon the deficit out of control and lead to inflationary pressures and economic stagnation.

You remember when the economy was the healthiest? It was back in Clinton's presidency, when the president had the courage, in the face of withering opposition, the RAISE taxes and balance the budget! The economy really took off back then. Unfortunately we don't have that kind of leadership in DC anymore.
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:08 pm to
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The economy really took off back then


Lol. Ever heard of a little thing called the internet? It was kind of a big deal back then.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:11 pm to
then why would his tax cut be helping me
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81310 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:12 pm to
Great thread and I agree.

Strong economy plus SJW and MSM overreach will equal Trump winning every 2016 state plus MN NH ME VA NV and maybe NM and CO.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:14 pm to
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And Repub Congressmen from NY and CA and PA will be enough to make sure we don't lose the state and local taxes deduction.



fricking cucks

Most NY Repubs arent even real Repubs anyway
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13945 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:19 pm to
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15%>12.5%


But the 2.5% repatriation isn't enough to leave dead money in Ireland.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21865 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:58 am to
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then why would his tax cut be helping me


It won't, which is the point.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21865 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 8:58 am to
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But the 2.5% repatriation isn't enough to leave dead money in Ireland.


Link?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:06 am to
That's not what an independent online calculator says.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48294 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 9:13 am to
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And I'm much more interested in deficit spending for a global recession


Which has caused the greatest long-term slow down in U.S. economic history and nearly doubled the national debt.

The fact that people still support Keynesian economic policies astounds me.


As to your original point about increased deficit spending, we can look at history and know that the only deficits are truly reduced is when tax revenue increases during prosperous economic times (1996-2000 for example). Our fiscal policy should focus on maximizing government revenue through economic growth not increased taxation. As to whether this plan, if passed, will do that, time will tell. We do know that increased taxation and deficit spending will not.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13945 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:46 am to
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Link?


You want me to link common business sense?

If our corporate rate is 15% and Ireland's remains at 12.5%, there's far less incentive to set up overseas subsidiaries to transfer payments to in order to evade oppressive taxation. Further, even if you do go that route, the US tax due is only the delta between the two nations (2.5% in this example). Paying 2.5% incentivizes firms to repatriate monies far more so than 22.5%, as it is now.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18210 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:29 am to
I wonder what the debates will be like if trump has a really successful first term in regards to the economy.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23650 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:33 am to
I have to disagree with the OP. If tax cuts get passed and they balloon the debt to pour money to the super rich, there will be hell to pay.
This post was edited on 4/28/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21865 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:38 am to
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You want me to link common business sense?


Link me somewhere that says 2.5% is too little of a repatriation rate to justify dead money, but the current rate isn't. Link somewhere that gives us a nice break point - what % makes it justifiable to pay rather than sit in another country?

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 11:41 am to
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Democrats won't give a single vote for it?



Wanna bet.

quote:

raises the deficit


Now y'all care about the deficit?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13945 posts
Posted on 4/28/17 at 1:02 pm to
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Link me somewhere that says 2.5% is too little of a repatriation rate to justify dead money, but the current rate isn't.


OK, You do want me to link common sense. Let me help you...

22.5% tax on repatriation = bad
2.5% tax on repatriation = much less bad

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