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If POTUS was going to renege on a campaign promise, this was the best we could hope for
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:43 pm
First off, Trump can frick himself if he thinks that staying in that shithole is a good idea and frick any attempt to do so. He should be embarrassed for himself.
With that said, 4,000 troops isn't worth diddly shite and isn't going to do diddly shite and isn't going to change anything at all.
Everybody knows this. Every military guy in that building knows this. Every neocon and democrat in Congress knows this.
This is just essentially a continuation of the status quo in Afghanistan to keep things in neutral and something a lot of people can live with on both sides whether it be neocons, the MIC, and anti war people like myself and Rand Paul.
This is not a good situation at all but it's something we can reasonably tolerate. I was defintely encouraged by Trump's rebukes against nation/democracy building and regime change but its on us to make sure he keeps that point of view front and center in foreign policy.
With that said, 4,000 troops isn't worth diddly shite and isn't going to do diddly shite and isn't going to change anything at all.
Everybody knows this. Every military guy in that building knows this. Every neocon and democrat in Congress knows this.
This is just essentially a continuation of the status quo in Afghanistan to keep things in neutral and something a lot of people can live with on both sides whether it be neocons, the MIC, and anti war people like myself and Rand Paul.
This is not a good situation at all but it's something we can reasonably tolerate. I was defintely encouraged by Trump's rebukes against nation/democracy building and regime change but its on us to make sure he keeps that point of view front and center in foreign policy.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:45 pm to Sentrius
Damn near every stage of grief in one post
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:45 pm to Sentrius
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trump has struck out on every major campaign promise but at least he didn't hit into a double play
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:46 pm to Sentrius
You know it's ok to simply say he's wrong and you disagree wholeheartedly and leave it at that?
This is an incredible level of rationalization.
This is an incredible level of rationalization.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:48 pm to Sentrius
Right. At least we have our big beautiful wall and our repeal and replace we can fall back on
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:49 pm to boosiebadazz
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You know it's ok to simply say he's wrong and you disagree wholeheartedly and leave it at that?
I just did.
I want him to break the status quo, he didn't and I explained why this was the best thing we could get if he was going to keep the status quo.
4,000 troops isn't going to do shite at all. Obama sent 30,000 in 09, Bush sent 20,000 in the Surge in 07.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:50 pm to Sentrius
remember the time Polly said renege and people flipped out?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:51 pm to Sentrius
Don't try to sugar coat this turd.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:54 pm to Scruffy
I'm not.
I'm saying it's just one moderate fart instead of the giant shite storm Bush and Obama gave us.
I'm saying it's just one moderate fart instead of the giant shite storm Bush and Obama gave us.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:57 pm to Sentrius
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I want him to break the status quo, he didn't...
Meh, President Trump just unleashed the dogs of war after Obama muzzled the dogs of war for 8 years.
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4,000 troops isn't going to do shite at all. Obama sent 30,000 in 09, Bush sent 20,000 in the Surge in 07.
President Trump didn't say how many more troops he is going to send to Afghanistan so where'd you get the number 4,000 from?
The MSM?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:58 pm to Sentrius
You are.
You literally just said frick everyone who thinks we should be there, then immediately defend why we should be there cuz it's the easiest and smallest frick up by Trump, so it's cool.
You literally just said frick everyone who thinks we should be there, then immediately defend why we should be there cuz it's the easiest and smallest frick up by Trump, so it's cool.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:01 pm to Yak
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You literally just said frick everyone who thinks we should be there
I did.
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then immediately defend why we should be there
I didn't.
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smallest frick up by Trump
As far as mideast policy goes, this is true.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:04 pm to Sentrius
I used to enjoy your posts until you went full Trump. Now you're basically the gthogs and seldom seens.
Like, the rationale just leaves the soul into the mist and all that's left is this.
Like, the rationale just leaves the soul into the mist and all that's left is this.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:05 pm to Yak
he used to be a principled libertarian. Can you imagine that??
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:05 pm to Sentrius
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With that said, 4,000 troops isn't worth diddly shite and isn't going to do diddly shite and isn't going to change anything at all.
This is the media number not Trump's.
Could be 40 or 400,000 troops.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:07 pm to boosiebadazz
Trump let you down it's okay to say he cuckled you...
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:09 pm to Yak
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I used to enjoy your posts until you went full Trump.
I'm the same guy who's learned so much about not just myself but about a lot of different people as well.
We've all changed a lot in the past two years but still there are quite a few things that not even Trump or Rand Paul will change or can even touch but that doesn't stop me from analyzing the situation and making an honest opinion for it.
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Now you're basically the gthogs and seldom seens.
Don't lump me in with those two. Those two are about as mindless, foul mouthed shills you will ever meet.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:09 pm to boosiebadazz
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he used to be a principled libertarian. Can you imagine that??
The man sold his soul a looooong time ago.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:11 pm to boosiebadazz
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he used to be a principled libertarian
You can blame that on the hilarious and pathetic response libertarians had to Trump and Hillary and it just drove me away from them. Not only that but a lot of fundamental flaws in their ideology was exposed.
Like I said, I learned a lot in the past two years.
Gary Johnson was the worst thing to happen to libertarians in a long time and I voted for him in 2012.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:12 pm to Sentrius
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Don't lump me in with those two. Those two are about as mindless, foul mouthed shills you will ever meet.
You're not there......yet
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