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re: If Milo is dead, it doesn't matter

Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:34 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:34 am to
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Rubin is playing to conservatives right now because he's gotten some attention from them recently but he's still left of center,

he's "left of center" in a libertarian/classical liberal way that almost all posters on here agree with

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just not in the way that's cherry picked on here as mainstream liberalism even though it really isn't.

you can claim it's not "mainstream liberalism" because that's a vague label but it's clearly the values of the current DEM party
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:34 am to
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Wrong


That's actually a pretty succinct summation of it. His statement. Not yours.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:35 am to
People care so much about personalities, and very little about principles which make up political ideals. Same thing happens in churches with people following leaders rather than their faith. None of them probably started out that way, but they do end up doing the same thing every time. Its just easier that way I guess. I don't know. I guess we really are just a herd when you get down to it.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:36 am to
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I've been following Dave Rubin since he was on TYT,


sweet
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:36 am to
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That's actually a pretty succinct summation of it.


It's a succinct summation of what the corporate media is feeding you
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:38 am to
Lol. It's what Dem leadership spouts. It's what Libs on social media caterwaul about. It's not a plot. It's what your side has latched onto.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 8:39 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:39 am to
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People who are comedians first tend to get more of a pass, but regardless she has never been a liberal commentator.

she jumped into that role after the Lafayette shooting when she became a huge gun control advocate

after THAT is when her off color jokes from her past became a big deal

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And I still don't know where y'all are pulling Roman Polanski from. I don't know or care what Meryl's views on him are.

Meryl Streep was just the big example b/c she talked about standing up to bullies and promoting progressive values blah blah while giving a standing ovation to the sex predator in her past (along with tons of Hollywood elite). Hollywood defends and supports RP even though he's an admitted, convicted child rapist. Milo's career seems to be dying in a day as a victim of sexual abuse who made comments about man-boy relationships, while RP is still making movies supported by Hollywood after admitting to drugging and raping a 13 year old girl
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 8:40 am
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:39 am to
Yep. And I'll repeat what I said yesterday about this Milo outrage and the PewDiePie

Milo isn't a pedophile. PDP isn't a nazi.

They both made some mistakes to allow themselves to attacked, but no one is "winning" anything by attacking and shutting them down.

This is what I don't understand about the left/the media/the SJW culture we live in, what good is shutting down people who aren't actually bad guys? Why can't they attack actual white supremacists and actual child molesters and pedophiles?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:41 am to
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he's "left of center" in a libertarian/classical liberal way that almost all posters on here agree with


Almost all posters here are cheerleading an administration which makes ups its own facts and appears so far to be more authoritarian than any we've seen in modern times, so I don't really know what this board stands for anymore.

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you can claim it's not "mainstream liberalism" because that's a vague label but it's clearly the values of the current DEM party


Defending marginalized groups from discrimination has been part of liberalism for decades. If you feel that's gone too far in some places that's fine, and I wouldn't even disagree with that, but this idea that it's all liberalism represents in 2017 is myopic at best, intellectually dishonest at worst.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:41 am to
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bad guys?


in the left's mind guys like milo are the bad guys
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:43 am to
How can a side that preaches that there is no objective truth and that people can be whatever they imagine in their minds be against any perversion that comes down the line?
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:43 am to
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It's a succinct summation of what the corporate media is feeding you
Maybe, but your posts don't actually come off as independent thinking with your usual points falling in line with the other side of corporate media. Of course, maybe we all fall for it, but pretending you're unique is a bit self-serving.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:43 am to
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and appears so far to be more authoritarian than any we've seen in modern times

bruh

let me know when Trump's admin creates teh biggest domestic spy network in human history and argues for killing US citizens without due process

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Defending marginalized groups from discrimination has been part of liberalism for decades.

this isn't even what's going on at this point

the progs believe in silencing possible opposition to these beliefs and promoting marginalized groups based on their identities
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:44 am to
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How can a side that preaches that there is no objective truth and that people can be whatever they imagine in their minds be against any perversion that comes down the line?



Are you on acid right now?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:44 am to
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liberalism represents in 2017


enlighten us
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:46 am to
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the progs believe in silencing possible opposition to these beliefs and promoting marginalized groups based on their identities


That's your interpretation, and to be fair I think that's true of the fringe. But what you're doing is basically blaming Mon Mothma for the sins of Saw Gerrera
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:48 am to
I wouldn't count out Milo just yet. His supporters, and many of the people who are open to the things he has to say, have been conditioned to see these coordinated media attacks for what they really are: attempts to discredit and neutralize his opinion by smearing him and labeling him as something that non one wants to go on record defending, a pedophile.
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:48 am to
I agree wholeheartedly
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:50 am to
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Are you on acid right now?


It's a perfectly logical question. Care to answer?
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 8:52 am to
On the one hand I agree, but on the other, the messenger has always mattered, too. Fortunately, Milo is so little-known to the public at large that it really is more about the ideas.
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