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re: I would participate in a flag burning to protest Trump's tweet
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:13 pm to PatDyesPants
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:13 pm to PatDyesPants
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If they did so then they didn't have a clue what they were really defending.
They died for your rights to disrespect the symbol that there friends died protecting. I'd support a veterans right to beat down someone like you, who wishes to desecrate that symbol.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:14 pm to PatDyesPants
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But do the people on this board really value freedom or not?
The US constitution is not a suicide pact.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:15 pm to purpledevildog
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And if I was present and saw you do it, the proper thing would be to pummel the living crap out of you. I always find it interesting that you Libs always seem to do this at a college campus or some other "Safe Place".
Some kid tried this at LSU. It didn't turn out the way he expected.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:17 pm to Tigerdev
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It never ceases to amaze me how selective "conservatives" are when it comes to government.
Who's talking about government? I'm simply stating that i have no problem with someone who wishes to burn the flag, receive a swift kick to the testicles. Burn away, just watch your plums.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:17 pm to Snipe
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If burning a flag is American then burning an American burning a American flag is Super American...
ok......
if you get your panties in a wad about respecting the flag, you better not have any fricking flag tshirts or hats. Those are more disrespectful, than burning. with burning a flag, you are making a statement. by wearing an american flag tshirt, you are also making a statement - that you suck at picking out clothing.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:18 pm to PatDyesPants
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do the people on this board really value freedom or not?
I value liberty.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:22 pm to SippyCup
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Are you serious? Uhh...Bald Eagles are against the law to burn/kill, or even mess with their nests. So yes they are more important than the 1st Admendment
*facepalm*
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Why isn't flag burning a crime? If I go outside and light my garbage on fire on a public street I'm pretty sure I could be arrested and/or fined.
Because burning your garbage doesn't qualify as speech under the First Amendment.
If you were prosecuted under a local ordinance that prevents you from burning your trash, you could not successfully present as a defense that you were simply exercising your right to free speech.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:23 pm to Hawkeye95
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that you suck at picking out clothing.
Is this what yawl call "triggered"? Just wondering.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:24 pm to buckeye_vol
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It's not nice or respectful, so in response you advocate for physical violence. Is that nice and respectful?
The law has defined fighting words.
It is a long established doctrine in Constitutional Law.
To some, the burning of the flag would fall under that category.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:26 pm to WheelRoute
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If you were prosecuted under a local ordinance that prevents you from burning your trash, you could not successfully present as a defense that you were simply exercising your right to free speech.
EPA regulation violation perhaps? You know, a snowflake needs to stay focused. What you say? Well there is the matter of CO2 emissions from burning a flag you know.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:28 pm to Loserman
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The law has defined fighting words.
It is a long established doctrine in Constitutional Law.
To some, the burning of the flag would fall under that category.
"Fighting words" are words directed at a particular person amounting to a challenge to an immediate physical fight.
If you knocked on your neighbor's door and when he answered burned a flag with a sign that said "F*CK YOU DAVE" then the First Amendment would likely not protect your speech.
But just burning a flag in protest in the street within view of people who would take offense? Nah. It's still protected speech.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:28 pm to Douboy
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please do it in front of a Marine or Ranger so we can watch them whip your arse.
Jesus Christ. There are many Marines and Rangers that support his right to burn the flag, asshat.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:28 pm to PatDyesPants
There was a time when this could in fact land you in jail in certain States. Then the Supremes stepped in. The left has completely divorced itself from actual history and so we end up with millions of people who think such laws are core violations of our civil society. Most of the framers were very much alive when the movement to ban flag desecration was at its height.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:30 pm to larry289
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EPA regulation violation perhaps? You know, a snowflake needs to stay focused. What you say? Well there is the matter of CO2 emissions from burning a flag you know.
I doubt very seriously that the EPA has issued a regulation with a threshhold so low that it would encompass burning a flag.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:32 pm to PatDyesPants
IIRC Louisiana passed a bill 30 years ago or so that made it a $5 fine to assault someone burning a flag. I think it was cancelled shortly thereafter due to the courts. Anyone remember this?
My dad used to say there would be a line of red necks and Cajuns lined up waving $5 bills if someone was stupid to do it. If only......
My dad used to say there would be a line of red necks and Cajuns lined up waving $5 bills if someone was stupid to do it. If only......
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:33 pm to PatDyesPants
I'll mail you a flag so you can get it done.
You realize this is bait right?
You realize this is bait right?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:37 pm to joshnorris14
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I'll mail you a flag so you can get it done.
You realize this is bait right?
Baiting a guy into exercising his constitutionally protected right to free speech.
Classic.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:37 pm to Hawkeye95
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k......
if you get your panties in a wad about respecting the flag, you better not have any fricking flag tshirts or hats. Those are more disrespectful, than burning. with burning a flag, you are making a statement. by wearing an american flag tshirt, you are also making a statement - that you suck at picking out clothing.
Jesus I think we can agree on just burning people the wear flag cloths. Umm No I really don't get my panties in a wad. I don't honestly care what people do. Nothing anyone does or says can ever diminish what the symbol of the American flag means to me.
I do however honestly believe that the people doing these things to the flag are not doing it to make any statement whatsoever other than to do something that they know drives the people they hate wild and gets under their skin. Really do you honestly think that burning a flag will ever in a million billion years make someone who sees the flag as a symbol of pride stop and say "Oh, you're upset about something, come in and lets talk about it." No, and they know this. They don't even want to talk about the problems, they want to make the other people feel as frustrated and angry as they feel like they do. It's not about fixing anything, its about lashing out.
That's why I say if people are offended by people burning the flag, then they should seek out the symbol that best represents the people burning their flag and burn that symbols too. Be it and African flag, gay pride flag, LSU flag whatever.
No none of this settles anything but apparently it make you feel better..
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:39 pm to Snipe
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I do however honestly believe that the people doing these things... are not doing it to make any statement whatsoever other than to do something that they know drives the people they hate wild and gets under their skin. Really do you honestly think that burning a flag will ever in a million billion years make someone who sees the flag as a symbol of pride stop and say "Oh, you're upset about something, come in and lets talk about it." No, and they know this. They don't even want to talk about the problems, they want to make the other people feel as frustrated and angry as they feel like they do. It's not about fixing anything, its about lashing out.
If you're a Trump voter, I hope you appreciate the irony.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:39 pm to KRB
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Liberal tears are my preferred beverage.
Seems like a lot of "Conservative" angst up in this thread.
"Burn my flag and I will fight you!!!"
These people truly do not grasp what the real greatness of this country is all about. Freedom of thought and speech is the foundation of our country.
Didn't we just win an election to oppose those who stifle "incorrect speech", at least that is what I though.
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