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re: I don't want to hear anymore BS about Trump's approval ratings when congress is below 15%

Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:44 pm to
His approval rating will be above whoever the democrats decide to run in 2020 so it doesn't matter.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46008 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:55 pm to
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I never understand why people interpret the approval of a single individual the same as the approval of an entire organization of people, especially when roughly half of that organization is comprised of individuals who share completely different views.

Besides only 1 House member and 2 Senators (and not even technically 1 House member if a resident of DC) completely represents and is accountable to any given person.

So for >99% of congress we are not supposed to be the TOP priority above all else, although we should still be a high priority nonetheless.

We are all President's constituents though.


It's always nice to see some balance and context when giving the approval rating for the POTUS, so congress needs to be part of the "big picture" approval rating of the D.C. Brothel.

Trump is facing unprecedented opposition that no other POTUS has faced and the opposition is coming from all facets of the "swamp" and the Enemedia. If he survives the next 18 months it can only mean one thing, the swamp is starting to drain and that's a victory for the American people and the POTUS.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:01 pm to
stale: obama did it

super stale: bush's fault

fresh: muh congressional approval
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46008 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:02 pm to
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stale: obama did it

super stale: bush's fault

fresh: muh congressional approval




Uh, ok.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:04 pm to
to spell it out explictly to, I'm mocking you for that weak-arse deflection
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:06 pm to
shite, if Congress is at 15% that means Flake is a real high achiever at 18%
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:06 pm to
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re: I don't want to hear anymore BS about Trump's approval ratings when congress is below 15%
You can't really compare an individual in his or her "home turf" with one person who represents 300+ million people. Congress has an approval rating..according to this poll..of 15%. According to the latest polls, the democrat party has an approval rating of 4.5% to 5%. Compared to Trumps approval rating of 87%, the dems look in trouble for 2018.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:16 pm to
Approval ratings of Congress are always a red herring and pretty worthless for comparison purposes. There are few if any congressmen or Senators that have an approval rating anywhere near that low among his own constituents. A seat in the House of Representatives may not be what it used to be, but it still carries a helluva lot more job security than a lot of jobs in this country.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57867 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:19 pm to
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Would be great if Trump was running against Congress.



Actually, Trump isn't running against anyone, and won't for another 3 1/2 years. So come back with poll numbers then.
Wait, scratch that. The false polling from last election means they can't be trusted anyway!
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:21 pm to
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Why? I'm looking at the SWAMP BAW! You're wanting all the state homers to weigh in on their congressman/senator, of course they'll have a high poll number.


Funny that you just don't get it. Isn't the point of bad poll numbers to demonstrate vulnerability in the next election? Seriously, in the grand scheme of things, what impact do these poll numbers have on the future of Cryin Chuck Schumer?
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:24 pm to
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I guess Trump's 36% approval rating would look pretty good if it was compared to congress's below 15% approval rating.


I've never looked at it that way. It's like comparing a medium size turd to a really big one.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:45 pm to
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It's always nice to see some balance and context when giving the approval rating for the POTUS, so congress needs to be part of the "big picture" approval rating of the D.C. Brothel.
Sure, and they are criticized heavily. HOWEVER, Congressional approval ratings represent something fundamentally different.

I mean I may disagree with a politician more than half the time. Based on that I should slightly disapprove. But maybe that person is likeable, or in the extremely rare case, honest and sincere. So I may actually approve afterall. So my view of single politician, is my view of a single politician.

Congress on the other hand, is an entity, with a large group who doesn't even pretend to share my views, and even a larger group of where my interests are supposed to be somewhere below a 300+ million other people.

And when congress doesn't get something done we don't like, by even one vote, and use only 1 out of 50 of our own party, then we don't remember the other 49, we remember that 1 vote. Just look at healthcare, for people who wanted it to pass, they don't care that or even remember the other 49 who supported they care about the 3, or even 1, who didn't. Those other 49 supported it just like Trump, and they have votes to prove it, and unlike Trump, they largely weren't elected to lead the party and nation. But they get included and Trump doesn't.

And even then, the outcome was probably ideal for the Ds, but they still don't approve of congress because they would prefer even more of their views.

It's just not the same thing.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46008 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:47 pm to
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to spell it out explictly to, I'm mocking you for that weak-arse deflection




Oh, ok, I gotcha, that's a pretty good one.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:49 pm to
O and Nixon's approval rating, up to the very end, was still at 27%. It should have been at about as close to 0 as possible, but somehow a single person can still have a not insignificant support.

Hillary Clinton would have higher approval rating than congress.

So it is clearly a fundamentally different comparison.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:52 pm to
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Bass Tiger


This is comparing apples to oranges. Compare Trump's rating to their ratings in their district.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46008 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:53 pm to
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Sure, and they are criticized heavily. HOWEVER, Congressional approval ratings represent something fundamentally different.

I mean I may disagree with a politician more than half the time. Based on that I should slightly disapprove. But maybe that person is likeable, or in the extremely rare case, honest and sincere. So I may actually approve afterall. So my view of single politician, is my view of a single politician.

Congress on the other hand, is an entity, with a large group who doesn't even pretend to share my views, and even a larger group of where my interests are supposed to be somewhere below a 300+ million other people.

And when congress doesn't get something done we don't like, by even one vote, and use only 1 out of 50 of our own party, then we don't remember the other 49, we remember that 1 vote. Just look at healthcare, for people who wanted it to pass, they don't care that or even remember the other 49 who supported they care about the 3, or even 1, who didn't. Those other 49 supported it just like Trump, and they have votes to prove it, and unlike Trump, they largely weren't elected to lead the party and nation. But they get included and Trump doesn't.

And even then, the outcome was probably ideal for the Ds, but they still don't approve of congress because they would prefer even more of their views.

It's just not the same thing.


I appreciate what you're saying and I don't necessarily disagree but you're getting way too deep into the meaning of the OP. The OP was merely to show how the Enemedia is always looking for anything and everything to hammer Trump with, all I was trying to say is they (Trump/congress) all are in the tank poll wise. Trump however is actually more favorable than congress as a whole.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46008 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Funny that you just don't get it. Isn't the point of bad poll numbers to demonstrate vulnerability in the next election? Seriously, in the grand scheme of things, what impact do these poll numbers have on the future of Cryin Chuck Schumer?




You went off on a tangent that the OP was not intending. The OP has nothing to do with poll numbers concerning re-election of congress members or Trump. The OP was to show how the Enemedia/MSM only want to harp on Trump's poor favorability while ignoring the obvious terrible favorability of congress.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46008 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:58 pm to
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove.

The president has been rebounding this week from his low-to-date approval rating early last week of 38%.

The latest figures include 27% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 45% who Strongly Disapprove.

Latest Rasmussen poll info
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24142 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:19 pm to
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Dumb. What would be great if Congress actually accomplished goals good for America long term.


get rid of gerrymandering, and that might happen.
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