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I can't believe the Democrats made such a dumb tactical error

Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Flavius Belisarius
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:36 pm
McConnell told them he would deploy the filibuster. Why would they pick Gorsuch as their hill to die on? Especially with potential upcoming retirements such as Kennedy, Breyer, and Ginsburg? Now Trump can nominate whoever he wants with full knowledge they will be confirmed. 3 more appointments would save the republic for another generation. If I were Trump, I would say something to the effect of, "I plan to nominate the youngest, healthiest, most conservative judges I can find."
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:37 pm to
They better be praying for RBG.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:38 pm to
If that happens, the GOP would just invoke the Nuclear Option then if they have control. What does it matter?
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:39 pm to
You won't think this is a dumb error when Obama gets on the SC in 2020
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Democrats

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dumb


I think you found your answer.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:41 pm to
What are you talking about?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:41 pm to
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If that happens, the GOP would just invoke the Nuclear Option then if they have control. What foes it matter?



As much as the left hates Gorsuch, he isn't extreme.

That changes now directly because of the left's decision to filibuster. Pennywise and pound foolish.
Posted by Flavius Belisarius
Member since Feb 2016
813 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:41 pm to
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If that happens, the GOP would just invoke the Nuclear Option then if they have control. What foes it matter?


You don't know that, and it never happened before. In fact, in the past senate democrats have been successful in getting liberal or very very moderate justices confirmed in contrast to a Scalia. Souter and O'Connor come to mind. Conversely, I think had republicans been in a position to filibuster Sotomayor or Kagan democrats would have invoked the nuclear option and not thought twice about it, with nary a peep from the media.
Posted by Flavius Belisarius
Member since Feb 2016
813 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:42 pm to
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You won't think this is a dumb error when Obama gets on the SC in 2020


Trump hates Obama, he would never nominate him.
Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:42 pm to
4D chess obviously.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118823 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:42 pm to
Thomas talked about retiring. Now would be a good time.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:43 pm to
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Dr RC
You really are this dumb
Posted by Flavius Belisarius
Member since Feb 2016
813 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:44 pm to
Can you imagine the outrage when Trump appoints a 40 year old version of Scalia to replace RBG? Democrats would be utterly powerless to stop it.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:44 pm to
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If that happens, the GOP would just invoke the Nuclear Option then if they have control. What foes it matter?


It matter because of the age and composition of the current SCOTUS. This allows any conservatives to retire should they wish. It also make RBG hold on with her withered skeletal hands hoping to outlast a republican presidency.

There is a very real possibility of a young conservative transformation on SCOTUS. One can only hope.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118823 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:45 pm to
Right.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58074 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Trump hates Obama, he would never nominate him.



An angry and spiteful Bannon is about invoke his own nuclear option on Trump by trying to cut the legs out from under Kushner. If Trump can't nip all this infighting he's going to be a one term President.
Posted by austintigerdad
Llano County, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1884 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:46 pm to
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I can't believe the Democrats made such a dumb tactical error
You're assuming that Trump, with GOP control of both houses, bring such great results that Democrats never retake the Senate?

And you're calling the Democrats dumb?

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48366 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:48 pm to
You are right Toddy. The nuclear option is now going to be the standard. Back to the constitutional requirement of simple majority. Thank you Harry Reid.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:51 pm to
whether or not this was an error depends on which justices live to see the next democrat president...if all of them it's a win.

knowing my luck, this is going to come back and bite the republicans on the arse when the liberal justices live through the trump presidency whether it be 4 or 8 years, get a senate majority and ram through some more crazy arse judges



This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:51 pm to
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You won't think this is a dumb error when Obama gets on the SC in 2020


So wait, you don't think the Dems would use it anyway?
Them frickers had Scalia killed in an effort to use it...fail
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