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re: I am voting "no" on amendments 1 & 2 and here is why
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:45 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:45 pm to I B Freeman
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Amendment 2 in particular is a heart tugging amendment. It exempts the survivors of first responders killed from property tax. Who can be against those people?? Certainly not me but I am against giving them an exemption on property taxes. First responders are for the most part government employees---let's make sure their survivors are taken care of financially but let's don't exclude those people from their obligations as citizens.
Jeez you are ungrateful and cheap, I hope they are late when you call
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:07 pm to I B Freeman
Amd #1 is bullshite that comes from developers of large facilities that begin producing goods but claim the thing is not finished being built. It has ZERO to do with you building a home or lowering your taxes. This state will become like Mexico and buildings will never be "finished" and taxed. Bad law being pushed for a few large companies. Look at the LNG plants and you will see where this comes from.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:15 pm to fatboydave
Interdasting
Haven't looked into it much but I will
Thanks
Haven't looked into it much but I will
Thanks
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:18 pm to I B Freeman
Our state has more amendments to our Constitution than any other state, and it's not close.
I vote NO on ALL Amendments. We don't need them.
We should begin with voting to do away with many of the existing Amendments.
I vote NO on ALL Amendments. We don't need them.
We should begin with voting to do away with many of the existing Amendments.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:38 pm to djmicrobe
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We should begin with voting to do away with many of the existing Amendments.
Of course to do that would require...
MORE AMENDMENTS
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:22 pm to Jake88
I actually have met all three of the Republicans running. They would all do a decent job. (So would Stokes fwiw). Maybe because of the nature of the job, all of them have run ads that have little to do with what the Treasury department really does. Shame that voters don't really care.
Davis is who you should vote for if you care the most about qualifications.
Riser is your choice if you are looking for a decent man. Probably the most socially conservative.
Schroeder would be most like Kennedy. Take that however you want.
Like I said all would be OK. The staff do the important stuff. So as long as they don't screw with the staff too much, it's all good. It's like picking between a paint color and your choices are egg shell, euchre and off white.
Davis is who you should vote for if you care the most about qualifications.
Riser is your choice if you are looking for a decent man. Probably the most socially conservative.
Schroeder would be most like Kennedy. Take that however you want.
Like I said all would be OK. The staff do the important stuff. So as long as they don't screw with the staff too much, it's all good. It's like picking between a paint color and your choices are egg shell, euchre and off white.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:28 pm to I B Freeman
I'm voting no on all of them. Quit messing with the constitution. 1 is particularly egregious since no one is currevtky taxing this stuff. If they start... come back and we can talk.
Voting for Davis for treasurer.
Not in NOLA but if I was I'd vote for bagneris. He seems least bad of the three
Voting for Davis for treasurer.
Not in NOLA but if I was I'd vote for bagneris. He seems least bad of the three
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:46 am to I B Freeman
Help me out, someone. Regarding the amendment on property taxes for construction in progress:
I have read and been told that a yes vote keeps things as they are, with taxation of construction in progress in the hands of local tax assessors, and a no vote sets a uniform statewide procedure for taxation of construction in progress, taking it out of the hands of tax assessors.
Some assessors begin taxation when partial construction is complete, or when a portion of the construction is ready for use. Others don't. It's at their discretion. This bill changes that.
What's true??? Yes vote or No vote to prevent the change?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:04 am to I B Freeman
I listened to who I thought was a conservative say vote, Yes, No, No. He said they've worded #1 to confuse us to vote No. I need help here.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:51 am to Folsom
Here are the supporters of #1
quote:
Donors
The following were the five donors who contributed to the LA Taxpayer Protection PAC as of October 8, 2017:[9]
Louisiana Now, LLC$135,500 BG Energy Merchants, LLC$75,000 Tellurian Services, LLC$50,000.00 Venture Global$25,000.00 Louisiana Realtors PAC$20,000
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:01 am to TigerTattle
I don't quite get your question. Did you read the PAR guide?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:35 am to TigerTattle
A yes vote creates a constitutional ban on taxing construction in progress.
A no vote leaves it in hands of local assessors.
If you believe in local control and small government you will vote no.
A no vote leaves it in hands of local assessors.
If you believe in local control and small government you will vote no.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:57 am to Mulat
quote:BS. Those "first responders" put their pants on one leg at the time just like me.
Jeez you are ungrateful and cheap, I hope they are late when you call
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:05 am to TigerTattle
I think you have it backwards. Yes changes, No stays as-is. PAR info on 2017 Proposed CA's
The larger manufacturing entities have the ITEP any way which provided 10-yr property tax abatement. But, JBE changed the ITEP via executive order in 2016, the Cameron Ph. lawsuit was subsequently filed, both of which is what I think led to the proposed amendment.
The proposed amendment stems from Cameron Ph. and the Cheinier LNG plant and maybe a few others plants. There are a few articles on the LC American Press website explaining the deal, although the writing is not the best.
I'm voting NO on all, I think #1 is a solution looking for a problem.
The larger manufacturing entities have the ITEP any way which provided 10-yr property tax abatement. But, JBE changed the ITEP via executive order in 2016, the Cameron Ph. lawsuit was subsequently filed, both of which is what I think led to the proposed amendment.
The proposed amendment stems from Cameron Ph. and the Cheinier LNG plant and maybe a few others plants. There are a few articles on the LC American Press website explaining the deal, although the writing is not the best.
I'm voting NO on all, I think #1 is a solution looking for a problem.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:33 am to White Bear
quote:
Yes changes, No stays as-is. PAR info on 2017 Proposed CA's
Well sort of, but not really.
Yes is a change to the constitution, but I think it keeps the status quo (for the most part, like you say there are a few assessors who are trying to tax it now).
No keeps the constitution unchanged, but there is a strong possibility the actual practice of assessor's could change to start taxing construction work.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:49 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:
A yes vote creates a constitutional ban on taxing construction in progress.
Yep
quote:
A no vote leaves it in hands of local assessors.
Nailed it
quote:
If you believe in local control and small government you will vote no.
Well a NO vote is certainly for local control. Not quite sure about small government as it will probably lead to more taxes collected. That could be a good or bad thing depending on your perspective.
And the flip side of local control is statewide uniformity.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:24 pm to BigJim
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(for the most part, like you say there are a few assessors who are trying to tax it now).
And I can't imagine this is ever going to be an issue for single family residential. Sure... maybe some assessors might try to tax commercial and multi-family construction.
But the ads being run on the radio are insanely inaccurate.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:27 pm to LSUFanHouston
Can you imagine them trying to ascertain the inventory of 2 X 4s on a house lot?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:27 pm to BigJim
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And the flip side of local control is statewide uniformity.
It is. But I think I'm ok with a lack of uniformity... because property taxes are a local issue, not a state issue. The state doesn't collect property taxes.
It's crazy. LA has differences in laws between state sales taxes and local sales taxes (where I would argue uniformity would help businesses). Yet in property tax, where the state has no skin in the game... we want essentially a statewide property tax code.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:30 pm to I B Freeman
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Can you imagine them trying to ascertain the inventory of 2 X 4s on a house lot?
Exactly.
Especially when valuations are "as of 1/1/year x" but generally don't actually occur until later in the year.
I don't see assessors going out and hiring appraisers to try to figure out the value of a half built house that will be sold for 200K when complete. It's not cost effective.
Now... large-scale commercial construction espeically multi-year construction? I can see that being a potential issue.
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