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How the heck does GOP Obamacare plan not include interstate competition

Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:08 am
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:08 am
for the plan premiums? This is the biggest no brainer to bring healthcare costs down in the system, as right now there are many states with only one or two insurers. It would be better to leave Obamacare in place and let it die on its own course than pass this joke of a replacement plan. GOP will lose the House and Senate in the midterms if they continue with this garbage.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:10 am to
Because this is the start, it will change as the debate begins.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:13 am to
GOPamacare is exactly what everyone knew it would be. Uniparty trash.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:14 am to
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Because this is the start, it will change as the debate begins.


Why the hell should there even be a debate about having more competition? And I thought this is the one shot, they probably don't have time to draft a new bill and get a budget passed in time.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33943 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:17 am to
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It would be better to leave Obamacare in place and let it die on its own course than pass this joke of a replacement plan. GOP will lose the House and Senate in the midterms if they continue with this garbage.


Shockingly, it's a lot harder to govern than it is to say no to everything. I bet a lot of conservatives were secretly pissed that Trump won the election. They have both houses of Congress, the presidency and will soon have the Supreme Court as well. They have no more excuses left.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:18 am to
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Why the hell should there even be a debate about having more competition? And I thought this is the one shot, they probably don't have time to draft a new bill and get a budget passed in time.



My theory is that they are putting out a bill so bad that it's almost guaranteed to be filibustered and never passed. That's the only justification I can come up with for the tragically bad crap that they proposed.

Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:19 am to
I read an article on zerohedge about it, and according to them it starts interstate competition and medical malpractice reform can't be passed under the reconciliation process, so those would have to be separate bills.

quote:

A breakdown of core aspects removed from the existing law (courtesy of Axios): All Obamacare taxes All Obamacare subsidies, including its premium tax credit Individual, employer mandate penalties "Cadillac tax" No longer will limit the tax break for employer-sponsored health coverage No payments to insurers for cost-sharing reductions Selling insurance across state lines (can't be done in the "reconciliation" bill) Medical malpractice reform (can't be done in the "reconciliation" bill) What is being added: Pre-existing condition coverage Continuous coverage — 30 percent penalty if people don't keep themselves insured Special fund to help states set up "high-risk" pools, fix their insurance markets, or help low-income patients Enrollment in expanded Medicaid will be frozen Current enrollees can stay until 2020, and keep getting extra federal funds, until they leave the program on their own Medicaid will change to "per capita caps" (funding limits for each person) in fiscal year 2020 A new, refundable tax credit will be available in 2020 to help people buy health insurance Covers five age groups — starts at $2,000 for people in their 20s, increases to $4,000 for people in their 60s It's not means tested, but phased out for upper-income people (starting at $75,000 for individuals, $150,000 for families) Insurers can charge older customers five times as much as young adults
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:21 am to
Can't be passed through reconciliation process.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:27 am to
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Can't be passed through reconciliation process.


Dont I remember the Republicans screaming from the rooftops about how evil it was for the dems to pass Obamacare through reconciliation?
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:31 am to
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Can't be passed through reconciliation process.


Why? Someone please educate me! Thanks.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:23 am to
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Why?



To put it simply, reconciliation can mostly only be used for things related to the budget. Interstate competition isn't a budgetary item and would require 60 votes in the Senate. Reconciliation items only require a simple majority.

It's a little more involved than that, but that's the gist of it.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5189 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:33 am to
must have interstate competition

must have tort reform

or it is not legit

drain the swamp
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