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How is it possible to 'raise taxes' on single moms?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:52 pm
ABC News
54m54 minutes ago
ABC News ?@ABC
Trump plan would mean tax increases nearly 8 million families—including a majority of single-parent households LINK
These are the biggest net benefactors of the welfare state's redistribution schemes. In some cases single moms earning minimum wage can net over $60,000 in total earnings when welfare is factored in
54m54 minutes ago
ABC News ?@ABC
Trump plan would mean tax increases nearly 8 million families—including a majority of single-parent households LINK
These are the biggest net benefactors of the welfare state's redistribution schemes. In some cases single moms earning minimum wage can net over $60,000 in total earnings when welfare is factored in
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:54 pm to joshnorris14
They're still campaigning against him 
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:58 pm to joshnorris14
You can't read?
From your own link:
From your own link:
quote:
hikes that would hit single parents and large families would result from Trump's plan to eliminate the personal exemption and the head-of-household filing status. These features of the tax code have enabled many Americans to reduce their taxable income.
His other proposed tax changes would benefit middle- and lower-income Americans. But they wouldn't be enough to offset those modifications.
"If you're a low- or moderate-income single parent, you're going to get hurt," said Bob Williams, a fellow at the Tax Policy Center.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:59 pm to Aubie Spr96
That doesn't address my question
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:01 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:
"If you're a low- or moderate-income single parent, you're going to get hurt," said Bob Williams, a fellow at the Tax Policy Center.
So, we're trying to disincentivize single parenthood. Rad.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:02 pm to joshnorris14
Are you this obtuse? If you eliminate that deduction, you've effectively raised taxes on single parents filing as head of household.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:03 pm to joshnorris14
It EXPLICITLY answers your exact question 
Don't double down on stupid just because you didn't read your own linked article closely.
Don't double down on stupid just because you didn't read your own linked article closely.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:05 pm to joshnorris14
Everyone should have skin in the game.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
Why do we incentivize single parenthood? BTW, why'd you run away from my thread?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
Did you not read my OP?
If you're receiving 10s of thousands of dollars in aid, while only making $20,000 a year, how is it possible to 'raise taxes'
If you're receiving 10s of thousands of dollars in aid, while only making $20,000 a year, how is it possible to 'raise taxes'
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:07 pm to joshnorris14
You could put a tax on FB posts where they talk about how hard it is to be a single mom.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Why do we incentivize single parenthood? BTW, why'd you run away from my thread?
Replacing strong family units with helplessness and dependency on daddy government
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:09 pm to HempHead
Thanks LBJ's "Great society"
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Well the head of household deduction is still lower than if filing jointly so I think it's a fair middle ground without greatly incentivizing single parenthood.
Why do we incentivize single parenthood?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Why do we incentivize single parenthood?
That wasn't the question, the OP asked a specific question which was answered in the article he posted and that fact was pointed out to him. This is a different discussion.
quote:
BTW, why'd you run away from my thread?
I didn't "run away" from anything, I gave you an answer you didn't like and you proceeded to start using anecdotes and hypotheticals to argue.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:17 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Actual social programs and actual cause and effect of those actual programs is "hypothetical".
you proceeded to start using anecdotes and hypotheticals to argue.
Not trying to derail thread but you could look around your house now and find at least thirty objects either invented by, or made by a process invented by, a brilliant mind that grew up in grinding poverty and would have been destined to it if not for help, thereby wasting that brilliant mind.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:24 pm to HempHead
I'd rather the gov't not incentivise or deincentivise anything with tax policy, or subsidies, or executive order, etc, etc, etc. Whenever they inject the gov't as a decider over the market, they create more problems then whatever they are trying to solve.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:This was actually a similar argument used for someone who was advocating for Universal Basic Income on a Freakonomics podcast. Frankly, it's hypocritical of me, but I think I find that more preferable than the current entitlement structure we have in place.
Not trying to derail thread but you could look around your house now and find at least thirty objects either invented by, or made by a process invented by, a brilliant mind that grew up in grinding poverty and would have been destined to it if not for help, thereby wasting that brilliant mind.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:36 pm to Aubie Spr96
Is EITC diminished? If not, these people aren't paying Taxes.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:59 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:
I'd rather the gov't not incentivise or deincentivise anything with tax policy, or subsidies, or executive order, etc, etc, etc. Whenever they inject the gov't as a decider over the market, they create more problems then whatever they are trying to solve.
I'd prefer that, too, but that's not the world we live in, unfortunately. We certainly can't remove the extra gibs that single mothers can get, which would be a far, far greater correction - but these are the tools at our disposal.
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