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re: How exactly did Russians influence election
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:00 pm to stout
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:00 pm to stout
quote:No. They made it up after the WikiLeaks releases came out, to make Hillary look like the victim of a conspiracy and to deflect away from the ACTUAL THINGS SHE and the DNC did, like the proven collusion with the media that forced Brazile to resign and Jeff Zucker to issue a public, on-air apology - or the proven conspiracy against Sanders, which forced DWS to resign.
Nothing. It's a false narrative to undermine Trump for 2020. It was immediately made up as soon as they realized Hillary would lose.
Since she lost, yes, they have rolled it into a non-stop, baseless attack intended to discredit Trump.
Some would like to say this is the Dem answer to Benghazi, but unlike that situation, there is absolutely no proof of anything. The Obama admin. claiming there is only proves that they're loyal partisans. There is no actual proof of anything.
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:35 pm to BBONDS25
I made my point in my first post in the thread. Then you spent four pages missing it.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:36 pm to MrCarton
quote:Sure, but one of the things that makes no sense is why they would prefer a republican over a democrat when historically, they definitely prefer democrats. shite, they walked all over Obama his entire time in office, and then there's the overheard, recorded comments made by Obama to Medvedev.
It's not hard to imagine that the government of Russia would have a deep interest in influencing American opinion
It seems like a baseless accusation at best, but very possibly classic leftist projection - accusing the other side of doing what they themselves are doing.
When Macron made the same bullshite allegations, and 4Chan users were equated with "Russian hackers," it began to be comical.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:52 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Nobody else seemed to acknowledge it. Poor communication on your part.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:07 pm to BBONDS25
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Nobody else seemed to acknowledge it. Poor communication on your part.
Perhaps. I do often forget my audience.
I did offer the crayon option, though.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:44 pm to The Spleen
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Nothing has been made public, but neither you nor I know what they may or may not have found. There is still an open investigation.
That Diane Feinstein said that there is no evidence of any collusion. Don't you believe that she would know?
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Well, I've never said Trump was behind it. I have said the Russians were interested in damaging Hillary to the benefit of Trump.
At this point it is totally irrelevant. Even if they proved without a shadow of doubt that the Russians did that, there is no way to show how much or little it influenced even one vote. Or if it even influence a single vote. You want to go after the Russians? Fine. Have at it. Seems hypocritical to me since we have been influencing elections for over a hundred years.
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I voted for Hilary in the general, then had to go home and take a shower.
I understand. I couldn't bring myself to vote at all. I just couldn't.
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No, I wasn't upset the DNC favored Hillary. It didn't surprise me in the least, and frankly I think Republicans made a bigger deal of it than it was.
I thought the entire reason we vote was so the American people would have a voice in our government. The voice was taken from the American people and your response is, "No big deal."?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:45 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
Are you serious? Bernie Sanders are the dumbest of all.
I'm not a Bernie guy. I hate socialists. They are leeches on society.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:52 pm to The Spleen
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That she has seen. Y'all keep leaving that caveat off when you quote her and others.
She heads up to committee. You don't think she has seen it all?
They are keeping it a secret from her? quote:
ETA: Actually Feinstein said "not at this time," when asked if there was evidence of collusion.
After a year of investigation. I guess you guys can keep hoping.
Think about it. Don't you think they have been digging just as hard as they can...I mean considering how much they hate Trump?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:56 pm to The Spleen
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Not really. Clinton's server seems to be the only one that wasn't hacked.
Actually many experts believe that her e-mails were hacked, according to the NYTimes.
Experts believe Hillary got hacked
ETA
Readers Digest Version:
When the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Tuesday that his investigators had no “direct evidence” that Hillary Clinton’s email account had been “successfully hacked,” both private experts and federal investigators immediately understood his meaning: It very likely had been breached, but the intruders were far too skilled to leave evidence of their work.
Mr. Comey described, in fairly blistering terms, a set of email practices that left Mrs. Clinton’s systems wide open to Russian and Chinese hackers, and an array of others. She had no full-time cybersecurity professional monitoring her system. She took her BlackBerry everywhere she went, “sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries.” Her use of “a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent.”
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:48 pm to burke985
Nothing. Zero. Why would the Russians risk means and methods? The whole Russians story is a last-ditch defense against "IT". The tin-foil hat, word that won't be spoken "IT". Because if "IT" is real, the only defense against "IT" is the Russians planted "IT" there. Why else are so many establishment Republicans completely freaking out about the Russians? The broke-arse Russians with torpedoes that run on hydrogen peroxide and an air-craft carrier that threw a rod and had to be towed to Syria.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:22 pm to burke985
Nothing
A DNC insider helped LEAK Podesta's emails
Podesta's email password was "p@ssword"
The insider strolled right in
Posted all the awful shite to Wikipedia
Hillary lost
"Muh Russian hackors interfered with muh election" "Trump helped Russia / Russia helped Trump"
Nothing was "hacked"
Things were LEAKED
Trump did not actively collude with Russia
Russia did not actively collude with Trump
Trump wanted better relations with Putin
Hillary wanted a good excuse as to why she lost
The left wing propaganda machine found this to be an easy lie to sell the American public to paint Truml as illegitimate and undermine his presidency and future reelection
Notice how you don't hear anything Trump DOES. It's just all speculation from unnamed sources about bullshite. It's meant to distract and sway opinion.
Thought control at its finest.
A DNC insider helped LEAK Podesta's emails
Podesta's email password was "p@ssword"
The insider strolled right in
Posted all the awful shite to Wikipedia
Hillary lost
"Muh Russian hackors interfered with muh election" "Trump helped Russia / Russia helped Trump"
Nothing was "hacked"
Things were LEAKED
Trump did not actively collude with Russia
Russia did not actively collude with Trump
Trump wanted better relations with Putin
Hillary wanted a good excuse as to why she lost
The left wing propaganda machine found this to be an easy lie to sell the American public to paint Truml as illegitimate and undermine his presidency and future reelection
Notice how you don't hear anything Trump DOES. It's just all speculation from unnamed sources about bullshite. It's meant to distract and sway opinion.
Thought control at its finest.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:33 pm to DreauxB2015
How about the dumb bitch was too cocky to campaign in the Rust Belt? Russia did that?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:38 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Please explain what was done to "take the voice."
I thought the entire reason we vote was so the American people would have a voice in our government. The voice was taken from the American people and your response is, "No big deal."?
Are you really this fricking stupid?
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