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re: How does the religious right justify with the ending of DACA

Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:47 pm to
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We all know that, and that this is just another way to start a culture war/lighten the impending browning of america


These statements scare me and this is the type of thing that makes me think you're all about race and racial divides as oppose to seeing everyone equal under the law.


You sound like you'd be happy to takeover with your "brownness", whatever the frick that means. Sounds pretty shallow to me, but I guess I wouldn't understand because I don't look to draw racial lines for something as shallow as political advantage.

Don't ever say you're not racist, because its literally the MO for nearly everything you say on here.

Have you ever thought about a world where you didn't constantly categorize people by skin color?


In this situation its illegal acts according to the law vs legal acts according to the law.

This country has to take a stance on immigration seeing as we currently barely enforce what laws we do have.

Just say you're for open borders and be done with it. Maybe thats your plan to "brown" the earth! What a fricking accomplishment to have everyone with BROWN SKIN!!!

Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36174 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:48 pm to
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Kids are lawbreakers now? How are kids complicit in a crime they had no choice of refusing to commit?


Let me guess, when kids are acting up in school it's their fault not the parents', am I right?

If we would hold PARENTS more accountable in our society this world would be a better place.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:50 pm to
I'm neither religious or right wing but I support the ending of DACA. It's illegal to come into this country without permission and using your children as a bargaining tool to stay is immoral.

The children of these criminals are innocent and should be allowed to stay but their parents should be sent back home. If we give in to their emotional blackmail, many more illegals will follow.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:50 pm to
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Who comes first, God or President?
If you are going to bring God into this conversation, Let's talk about how God feels about all this issues. Are as ardently concerned about what God says about salvation, abortion, homosexuality, unforgiveness, and on and on.

Don't come in here and want to talk about God regarding just one topic. God doesn't care about immigration nearly as much as he cares about salvation, abortion, or perversion. God's Word specifically tells us that God hates the shedding of innocent blood. Abortion is the shedding of the absolute most innocent blood of all.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56466 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:51 pm to
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Its an holy unchristian act on a "National Day of Prayer."

How can the right keep voting for candidates who's political leanings are contrary to EVERYTHING Christ stood or and professed?

Who comes first, God or President?

Because this, like many other policies in this administration, are the antithesis of what you claim you believe.



I don’t think the enforcement of our sovereignty conflicts with Christianity.

Christ would have given his shirt off his back for someone in need. But I don’t believe we need laws to forc individuals to do so.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:51 pm to
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Liberals try to transfer Christians personal responsibilities onto governments also. And that logic doesn't work either.


Because the government is the liberal god. For all of the shite they give religions they sure as shite are trying harder than ever to enforce their moral beliefs on others with extraordinary zealotry.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71385 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:52 pm to
I'm assuming this argument sounded way better in your head, because it is pure trash in its current form. I'm not big on religion and I highly dislike the religious right, but this isn't even close to being a religious issue.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10936 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
... well he might start with, Isaiah 14:21

quote:

Kill this man's children! Let them die because of their father's sins! They must not rise and conquer the earth, filling the world with their cities."

Children paying for the sins of the father, is a fairly popular sentiment in scriptures. As is in this gem, "Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation." exodus/34-7
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:59 pm to
How the frick do democrats get off saying anything about what Christians should do?

What phony baloney bullshite.

and ending it obeys the law -see that was easy
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:00 pm to
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How can the right keep voting for candidates who's political leanings are contrary to EVERYTHING Christ stood or and professed?

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48285 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:06 pm to
You have a very elementary understanding if Christ.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:14 pm to
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Jesus never said anything about giving lawbreakers a pass and allowing them to break the law without consequences


For God's sake, these people were brought here as CHILDREN. They had no say in this. Many have never visited or have absolutely no connection to the country that their parents brought them from. Some of you people are so heartless. It's really sad.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23175 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:16 pm to
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Many have never visited or have absolutely no connection to the country that their parents brought them from.


Besides being born there?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:31 pm to
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Many have never visited or have absolutely no connection to the country that their parents brought them from. Some of you people are so heartless. It's really sad.



Where is your indignance for the people who took them to a place they weren't supposed to be?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:36 pm to
How does this make our country any better?

Literally the right is on a nonstop onslaught of slowing the browning of this country.

They'd be better served courting minority vote as opposed to gaming systems to fight a population battle they know they can't win.

Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:40 pm to
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How does this make our country any better?


Equal protectiin under the law is the concept that this country was founded on.



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Literally the right is on a nonstop onslaught of slowing the browning of this country. 



Why are you obsessed with race?



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They'd be better served courting minority vote


Non citizens should not be voting in federal elections.


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fight a population battle


WTF are you talking about?
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:42 pm to
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God's Word specifically tells us that God hates the shedding of innocent blood. Abortion is the shedding of the absolute most innocent blood of all.


Then why does god spontaneously abort as many as 50% of babies? Why did he kill all the firstborn of Egypt? It was Pharaoh who was offending.
Posted by ZOU
STL
Member since Oct 2014
1841 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:43 pm to
The fact that you think everyone on the right is religious shows your ignorance. Do you not know how many Democrats are religious? Apparently not. I'm not religious at all and I'm a conservative. Regardless, you're an emotional retard that thinks the citizens of the US should pay for illegal immigrants instead of kicking them out for purposely disobeying the law. The kids? That's the parents fault, not theirs, but being illegal is being illegal. Maybe if we had stricter border patrol, perhaps a wall, the kids wouldn't be forced into this situation.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 11:44 pm
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18066 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:43 pm to
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They'd be better served courting minority vote as opposed to gaming systems to fight a population battle they know they can't win.


Following the rule of law is "gaming the system" in your eyes?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:44 pm to
This just shows that they haven't evolved since 65. I believe there was a deep deep seated resenting stemming from the immigration act and civil rights acts of the 1960s.

Unlike post reconstruction, when these deplorables were let off easily for their pathetic ideologies, we went on a 30-40 year shaming (rightfully so) of racist and bigot rhetoric, policies, people.

This is there punch back. Sadly for them, they can't reverse time or population demographics. Their last resort is voter suppression, gerrymandering, industrial prison complexes, reduction of welfare states, and other politic tactics to lessen the involvement of the growing brown pop of the country.

It's sad. The right could just court the minority vote (that would piss off their base) and leave the dog Whistle politics at home.

There are many things conservative policies offer to minority groups. Its just a shame that the right rather drench them in xenophobia and identity politics/race baiting/race based fear mongering.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 12:01 am
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