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Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:36 am to StrongSafety
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Would you have said the same about slavery and prohibition when it was law of the land
This is a just law, there's no moral ambiguity in it.
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Its easy to blanket this under that pretense
Because you said it.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:38 am to StrongSafety
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What else are all these anti race based policies that the current admin is pushing then?
Hey! NEWS FLASH! The 60s are over! Your new civil rights cause is bullshite. You have it too good and you need a cause, I understand that. Maybe buy into a cause that actually helps people and doesn't just assign labels to people based on something they have no choice over.
Yet again though, race race race all day everyday. You are the most racist person I've ever seen post on this board. I cannot say this enough. I say this because you constantly bring it up as if its the end all be all.
Try to believe for a week that people aren't out to get you because of race, and you might see that a lot of people don't have as much time as you think to act out towards people based on skin color. It could honestly be all in your head (it most definitely is).
To go out into the world and continue to tell people they are oppressed only gives them excuses not to try and succeed and dooms them to the same cycle these people under your supposed "racist oppression" seek to escape.
Ever heard of the term "ignorance is bliss"?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:47 am to StrongSafety
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What else are all these anti race based policies that the current admin is pushing then?
When the frick will you reLize that this has nothing to do with race? The race aspect comes in when the identity politicians drop emotional bombs on idiots like you. Come on, man. Wake the frick up.
My kids are dual citizens. My wife is from the other side of the fricking planet. I coach the kids of illegals, and I don't doubt some will be affected by this. My friends have had family members die crossing the border. You picked the wrong person to bring up identity politics with.
Skin color is the most superficial thing, yet that's what motivates you people. Why? Because you're a useful idiot and you are easily swayed by the superficial.
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Name me one positive thing he has positively pushed for ethnic groups in the last 7 months?
Why is pandering considered beneficial? Why does someone or a group have to get special treatment to be seen as being helped or cared about?
How about we see people as people instead of brown, black, white, or fricking purple? How about we stop telling people that they are not good enough to be successful without the help of Democrats?
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assault on their citizenship and status in this country
They are not citizens, and should not be treated as such unless they earn it.
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I guess they are just more happy with him sticking it to the left and their voters then actually doing good by the country.
You can swap right and left and the idiots are the same...only you have to realize that the identity politics are actually taught to leftists as "how it's done." You cannot deny it.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:50 am to tiggerthetooth
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Again, this is more liberal "government is my god and must enforce morality" bullshite. The law is the LAW. Its black and white on this.
IDGAF My family has been in this country since 1635. I'm sure a lot people whose lineage in this country goes back that far have ancestors who stole land from the Native Americans. These people aren't even stealing shite. I'm sure a LOT of them contribute more to this country than the bottom rung white and black trash that leech off the government and are able to do so just because they won the lottery and were born here.
The optics on this will be terrible because Congress won't get jack shite done about this. Trump can't them to accomplish anything. This will be no different. Only upside of this for Democrats will that it reinforce negative Republican stereotypes as being heartless and ineffective at getting legislation passed.
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You are a typical liberal with the emotional bullshite.
I take that as a badge of honor. This is wrong to punish these young adults (many who have prospered) because of the actions of their parents.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:54 am to StrongSafety
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How does the religious right justify with the ending of DACA
The ones that truly try to live a Christ like life will be against this. Sadly, this number is much smaller than the rest of them , who are mostly just faking it anyway.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:56 am to Toddy
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The ones that truly try to live a Christ like life will be against this. Sadly, this number is much smaller than the rest of them , who are mostly just faking it anyway.
How would you know who is "truly" living "like Christ"?
How would you even know?
The Bible plainly says, "OBEY THE LAWS OF YOUR LAND"
The laws of the land say illegals got to go.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:56 am to StrongSafety
Maybe they should try to make things better in their own countries
That's why I think Catholic Church is full of shite... advocate hard for open borders in the US, how about investing more in 3rd world shitholes
That's why I think Catholic Church is full of shite... advocate hard for open borders in the US, how about investing more in 3rd world shitholes
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:00 am to tiggerthetooth
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The Bible plainly says, "OBEY THE LAWS OF YOUR LAND"
The Bible says a lot of stuff that no one follows. I'm talking about the True Believers, the ones that try to live a life that Jesus would be proud of. You think Jesus would be happy Trump is kicking out teenagers and young adults that had absolutely no control of why they're here in the first place.
Oh btw, I feel quite sure you break laws. Congrats on being lucky because of where you were born though.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:02 am to Toddy
quote:Nobody is getting kicked out.
Toddy
The plan is to have congress pass a bill that is akin to DACA so it is legal.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:04 am to Toddy
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teenagers and young adults that had absolutely no control of why they're here in the first place.
They're probably more proud to be American than the tiki torches...
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:04 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The plan is to have congress pass a bill that is akin to DACA so it is legal.
Well that's all good and everything. Unfortunately, this Congress has proven not very capable of getting legislation passed. I will say the odds, based on past behavior by this body, are not very good this will happen.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:05 am to Toddy
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I'm sure a lot people whose lineage in this country goes back that far have ancestors who stole land from the Native Americans. These people aren't even stealing shite.
So we make this decision based on our 200 year old ancestral life choices?
Some of them ARE STEALING shite in terms of federal funding, stealing the educational attention from American students who speak english, some even get in-state tuition to colleges even though they dont live in that state while legal immigrants DON'T, some are committing crimes which the democratic party has straight up protested against deporting gang members who are known murderers and rapists.
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'm sure a LOT of them contribute more to this country than the bottom rung white and black trash that leech off the government and are able to do so just because they won the lottery and were born here.
Well, do you have any numbers on that? Otherwise you're just making this up? I have the law that says they are illegally here, you've got nothing.
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The optics on this will be terrible because Congress won't get jack shite done about this. Trump can't them to accomplish anything.
Probably so, but who knows.
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Only upside of this for Democrats will that it reinforce negative Republican stereotypes as being heartless and ineffective at getting legislation passed.
It has to happen at some point. Either we go 100% open borders and let anyone and everyone in or we take a stand. This half in half out bullshite isn't working obviously. Trump would look terrible now, but he would be looked at much better down the road as a president who had the balls to do what no one else before would. Bush wouldn't, Obama wouldn't, Clinton with all of his grand speeches on immigration reform wouldn't.
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I take that as a badge of honor. This is wrong to punish these young adults (many who have prospered) because of the actions of their parents.
You act like you know whats in their best interest and everyone else's. You have nothing to gain by this, nor anything to lose, so you're not really risking anything are you?
I think the law matters in this country and if I want this nation to last, we have to subscribe to a set of laws that people actually respect. You want to throw that out of the door because it makes you feel bad. Who are you to tell others what is right or wrong? I bet you do things I think are immoral and wrong, and I may do things you think are immoral and wrong. Thats why we need fricking laws to draw the lines we can't with bullshite moral relativism.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:12 am to Toddy
quote:So.... if a parent commits a crime, say, severely assaults a ghey person... should he not face jail time because it would split up his family if he we're incarcerated?
This is wrong to punish these young adults (many who have prospered) because of the actions of their parents.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:14 am to tiggerthetooth
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Some of them ARE STEALING shite in terms of federal funding, stealing the educational attention from American students who speak english, some even get in-state tuition to colleges even though they dont live in that state while legal immigrants DON'T, some are committing crimes which the democratic party has straight up protested against deporting gang members who are known murderers and rapists.
You can find examples of everything if the group is large enough. I stand by my assertion that the vast majority of them contribute much more to this country than the bottom rung black and white trash who's sucked off taxpayers for decades and their prospects of becoming hard working valuable contributors (taxpayers and law abiding citizens ) dwarf the prospects of the leeches born in this country.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:15 am to Toddy
quote:Bigot.
I stand by my assertion that the vast majority of them contribute much more to this country than the bottom rung black and white trash who's sucked off taxpayers for decades
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:18 am to Taxing Authority
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Bigot.
Meh. They shouldn't be white trash if that offends them. They chose to be trash
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:19 am to Toddy
quote:Prople have said he same about ghey people my friend.
They shouldn't be white trash if that offends them. They chose to be trash
Care to answer my question in the previus post?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:20 am to Toddy
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Well that's all good and everything. Unfortunately, this Congress has proven not very capable of getting legislation passed
It's hilarious you'd blame it on this congress, specifically. Your blow buddy, Baraaq Obama, ran his first presidential campaign with immigration reform as one of the biggest planks in his platform. He had majorities in both houses, and he didn't lift a finger, despite his promise. You don't mention that. You place the onus and the blame on this congress.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:25 am to Toddy
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You can find examples of everything if the group is large enough.
They do not have equivalence. Committing crimes as an ILLEGAL alien =/= committing crimes as a LEGAL CITIZEN. You talk as if they should be on the same playing field.
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I stand by my assertion that the vast majority of them contribute much more to this country than the bottom rung black and white trash who's sucked off taxpayers for decades and their prospects of becoming hard working valuable contributors (taxpayers and law abiding citizens ) dwarf the prospects of the leeches born in this country.
And its at best an assertion without a single fact to back it up.
You don't think there's Mexican trash in this world? Holy shite take a trip to the southern border of Texas or California. You're being very deliberately ignorant if you think there's no illegal trash. Most of the illegals ARE trash in these areas. The sad part is that it is still better than their home countries...they don't care if they can contribute, they take what they can get and places like California cater to them thoroughly in every way regardless of the burden their being here places on legal American citizens.
Also, just because it makes you "hurt", doesn't mean its wrong. You also probably think eating cat or dog is abhorrent, but people in China eat it regularly. So lets not act like your hurt is some objective indicator.
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