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re: How do Moderate Democrats Take Back the National Party?

Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:01 pm to
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Pro-life (with exceptions for rape/incest)
Protection of the 2nd amendment

I believe in smaller government and keeping taxes as low as possible, but would not support a flat tax. I would be in favor of abolishing the departments of Homeland Security, VA, Education, HUD, Transportation.


no one who says they believe in any type of small government should be associated in any way with the democrats. What do you agree with them on? cant be much
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 9:40 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Pro-life (with exceptions for rape/incest)
Protection of the 2nd amendment

I believe in smaller government and keeping taxes as low as possible, but would not support a flat tax. I would be in favor of abolishing the departments of Homeland Security, VA, Education, HUD, Transportation.



If you suggested these ideas in a room full of today's Democrats you'd be kicked out on your arse. I think your views basically align with establishment Republicans.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48337 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:05 pm to
Forget it, Smalls.

The Democrat Party is going to continue to trend more and more to the Left.

This is a certainty.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:06 pm to
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do we not have a party for those positions?



Sure. One that would blast me and call me a "freedom hater" for my support of civil unions (decided at the state level), my strict belief in the separation of church and state, not believing that taxes and government programs are inherently bad, and my disdain for our armed forces being the world police.
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:09 pm to
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Sure. One that would blast me and call me a "freedom hater" for my support of civil unions (decided at the state level), my strict belief in the separation of church and state, not believing that taxes and government programs are inherently bad, and my disdain for our armed forces being the world police.



you sound close to classical liberal to me. There really isn't a place for them these days though. They're just wanna be libertarians who hold on to a few statist beliefs
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

Pro-life (with exceptions for rape/incest)
Protection of the 2nd amendment

I believe in smaller government and keeping taxes as low as possible, but would not support a flat tax. I would be in favor of abolishing the departments of Homeland Security, VA, Education, HUD, Transportation.


No way you are a Democrat. Not even a "moderate" or "centrist".

You are a Republican.

As a bleeding heart liberal ACLU card carrying Little Red Book reading hippie tree hugger, all I have to say to you is this:

Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:10 pm to
Perhaps a more likely scenario would be the emergence of a viable and legitimate 3rd party consisting of Democrats like myself, independents, and "establishment" Republicans...
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:13 pm to
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carrying Little Red Book


Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18183 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:15 pm to
You are a JFK. Democrat, sorry those don't exist anymore.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:17 pm to
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LuckySo-n-So



People like you are part of the problem. Dismissive. Zero compromise. No room for other people within your own party with differing ideas.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9096 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9096 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:25 pm to
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Really, this past year


I mean no snark when I ask this, but where do you get your news from? This massive lurch to the Left has been going on for quite some time..by both parties.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8508 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:25 pm to
I would vote democrat if they would "do the right thing."
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:32 pm to
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What do you agree with them on? cant be much



At this point, probably:

Civil Unions
Legalization of marijuana
Progressive tax structure
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

Civil Unions
Legalization of marijuana
Progressive tax structure


If I can convince you that the income tax should be eliminated all together, then you can become a libertarian.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

I mean no snark when I ask this, but where do you get your news from? This massive lurch to the Left has been going on for quite some time..by both parties.



I guess I truly thought that the extreme left movement was more of a cycle...and that the reaction to Obama would force the party back to the center, but I'm realizing that this is probably not the case.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9096 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:40 pm to
Sure isn't.

If you want an eye opening experience, go to CPUSA's website, then try to list 3 things that today's Dems disagree w/ CPUSA about.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12655 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:41 pm to
Ask snowball
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:41 pm to
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If I can convince you that the income tax should be eliminated all together, then you can become a libertarian.



I'm all ears. If you can show me a way to properly fund the federal government at legitimate levels without the income tax...
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:42 pm to
You can't. The Union leaders and Trial Lawyers took over in the early 80's due to hatred of Reagan. The union dues and trial lawyers lawsuit money pay for the blacks block vote and lies in TV ads. I saw this first hand in the 80's and I
had to leave the party. I saw them completely lie about an incumbent Senator just to beat him[but didn't]. I personally saw Teachers Union leaders reading Communist books and Sol Alinsky books[anti-American] on their breaks and off time. I had to leave in '89 and I was very,very involved with elections.
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