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veerbone
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs

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So the federal government should target a segment of the population with higher scrutiny? Sounds familiar...


Abso-freaking-lutely...the segment "that takes money from my no drug-using, get up and drag my self to work so I can pay taxes ass"!

The government needs to cut welfare spending across the board, but if they refuse to do that, they at least need to make sure it doesn't end up in the hands of deadbeat dope heads who make themselves unemployable and incapable of ever getting off the government tit. Why is this is even up for discussion? It's a common sense idea that should have been required before the first welfare check ever went out!



JohnnyKilroy
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The government needs to cut welfare spending across the board, but if they refuse to do that, they at least need to make sure it doesn't end up in the hands of deadbeat dope heads who make themselves unemployable and incapable of ever getting off the government tit. Why is this is even up for discussion? It's a common sense idea that should have been required before the first welfare check ever went out!



So cut welfare spending by adding a huge extra layer of bureaucracy on top of it? How the frick does that work?


veerbone
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
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So cut welfare spending by adding a huge extra layer of bureaucracy on top of it? How the frick does that work?



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The government needs to cut welfare spending across the board, but if they refuse to do that, they at least need to make sure it doesn't end up in the hands of deadbeat dope heads who make themselves unemployable and incapable of ever getting off the government tit.


JohnnyKilroy
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
Meh. I want less government. Not more.


veerbone
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
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Meh. I want less government. Not more.


Agree 100%, but if they're not going to give us less government, at least give us a better government...one that doesn't take money from producers and give it to non-producers who are actively making choices that eliminate them from employment.

If there was no welfare to start with, we wouldn't need to waste money reforming it.


oklahogjr
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deadbeat dope heads who make themselves unemployable and incapable of ever getting off the government tit.

how does being on drugs make you unemployable?

I know lots of people that do lots of drugs and hold down several jobs.


RogerTheShrubber
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Agree 100%, but if they're not going to give us less government, at least give us a better government...one that doesn't take money from producers and give it to non-producers who are actively making choices that eliminate them from employment.


End the war on drugs and you solve more problems than you create.


RogerTheShrubber
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So cut welfare spending by adding a huge extra layer of bureaucracy on top of it? How the frick does that work?


It doesn't.


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upgrayedd
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
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Agree 100%, but if they're not going to give us less government, at least give us a better government...one that doesn't take money from producers and give it to non-producers who are actively making choices that eliminate them from employment.




All this program does is add more cost per recipient. Your whole theory is based on the premise that the govt can be efficient and honest, which I'm sure that's something you don't believe.


TigerintheNO
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
it is a moot point, the House rejected the bill


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JohnnyKilroy
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
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End the war on drugs and you solve more problems than you create.



This.


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deltaland
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
Well if they were to go get a job they would be drug tested so I fail to see the problem here.


Only thing I ask is are the recipients going to be randomly tested? Because that is the only way you'd catch them.

If it was a test for just when they apply then people would be prepared for it ahead of time and get it out of their system.


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Aubie Spr96
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
Great. Big gov't gets bigger.....


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Patrick O Rly
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
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Meh. I want less government. Not more.



Me too.

I don't get this huffy puffy "I don't like how government is wasting money so I want to spend even more money making sure they don't waste money!" attitude. It's very Anne Coulter-esque.


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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
I'm against them drug testing recipients ,but I do think that if you can afford cable TV,a SUV and many other things that today's food stamp recipients have that a lot of them do not need food stamps. The requirements needs to be much tougher.


Patrick O Rly
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
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I'm against them drug testing recipients ,but I do think that if you can afford cable TV,a SUV and many other things that today's food stamp recipients have that a lot of them do not need food stamps. The requirements needs to be much tougher.


Oh I agree, but you have to understand who is setting the criteria, and what their interest are.

Oh course we think we should be pushing people to be independent from government assistance, but politicians don't feel that way. They want to feel needed, and they're very deliberate with the language in bills. They're looking for job security.

If you lax the criteria for qualifying, it looks to the untrained eye that there's a greater need than there really is. You then have a perfect platform to say "Look at how much we're spending on this program, and there are still people in need! We need to increase funding."

They don't care who they're helping, if they're helping, or who they're screwing over. They're like a twisted mother who poisons their child so that they'll always be needed.


Antonio Moss
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
The principle behind the idea is noble but will cost way more than it saves.


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SundayFunday
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
Don't try to make this argument if you are talking about smoking weed or taking adderal without a prescription every now and then.

Even if you are, the argument is still invalid. Either one, although popular opinion and some fact support they aren't harmful, is still illegal in most places and can negatively affect a persons performance in their job.

Now you could also argue that these two drugs don't affect a person that much, but this legislation wasn't meant to target this alone. It was meant to find and prevent those who request free money from the government from using any disposable income on Illegal drugs that could or could not effect their search for or performance in a job environment. Welfare/food stamps are meant to provide assistance until a person is able to get on their feet, not be a lifelong income. While it is serving its true purpose, it is being used by millions of people as exactly this, a long term income(small may it be).

Now, if the government wants to drug test people applying for this welfare/stamps to make sure they are not using what income they may have for necessary expenses on Illegal drugs, then that is perfectly fine. Yes it will be expensive, but wouldn't saving the money denying those who fail these test not make up for quite a bit of it?


If you have a better alternative please email your representative.

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Antonio Moss
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
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Yes it will be expensive, but wouldn't saving the money denying those who fail these test not make up for quite a bit of it?


It hasn't in any of the states in which its been attempted


SundayFunday
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re: House approves amendment to Farm bill to test food stamp recipients for drugs
Then take the money it costs to test out of the first few payments. .


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