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re: Hitler's Speeches With Subtitles... An Incredible Leader and Horrible Man.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:32 am to FT
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:32 am to FT
A bad economy and desperation of the masses allow people like him to assume power. I'm so glad our economy is good right now... 
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After watching all of his speeches, I would totally emulate him if I was running for office or doing a speech for a class. He really is a master at communication.
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After watching all of his speeches, I would totally emulate him if I was running for office or doing a speech for a class. He really is a master at communication.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 12:36 am
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:19 am to Scoop
quote:Don't be vague. What demographic changes would cause a problem? Why?
Don't be coy.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:37 am to FT
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Only a leader of that caliber could convince his people to fight to that terrible an end.
The devil is in the details, and there was a whole hell of a lot of the devil and his wiles in Hitler and the path that he led Germany to when he realized that no one within and without the nation would stop him from the path he started Germany upon.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:36 am to weagle99
Hitler was a narsasistic, psychopath who manipulated the German people as well as others. By the time they fiqured out his true nature it was to late. Reminds me a lot of someone else. He may have been great at manipulation, murder, etc but definitely not my definition of a great man. He was pure Evil from the very most bottom floor of hell.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:47 am to Malik Agar
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After watching all of his speeches, I would totally emulate him if I was running for office or doing a speech for a class. He really is a master at communication.
His way of promoting socialism in a very positive and inspiring sense seems to been very effective. It's interesting how his emphasis is on unity and working together for the common good. It's also interesting his take on pride in helping those below your status. I can see how he garnered such massive public support. It amazes my that he had such loyalty to the bitter end. His people followed him straight into the bowels of hell.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:53 am to FT
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What demographic changes would cause a problem? Why?
IMO, demographic changes that would lead to a less homogenous population. I would think it would be a lot easier to implement socialist policies when everyone in the country looks the same. Here in America, we have too many different groups of people that think their individual cause if of the utmost importance. Whites vs. blacks. vs. gays vs. hispanics, etc.
Everyone is on a different page due to our fricking stupid politicians and educational establishment dividing and conquering us.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 8:59 am to EmperorGout
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His ideas were insipid, his goals obscene, his strategy nothing if not reliably idiotic. Hitler maintains a decent highlight reel as a public speaker while being a complete and utter failure as a head of state in every facet such a position can be measured.
Pretty well describes Barack Hussein Obama.
"Rebellion to tyrants, is obedience to God" - Benjamin Franklin
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:00 am to Champagne
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Hitler promised to build a Paradise on Earth under the banner of Socialism (with nationalism thrown in for good measure).
National Socialism was a good example of how terrible leftism/socialism can be.
National Socialism had nothing in common with socialism except the name. It was pure fascism. In fact Hitler's rise to power was in part due to his opposition to socialism. This is well documented.
Germany is a very successful nation today and has some very strong socialistic leanings. So does most of Northern and Central Europe, all of which are pretty successful nations. Europe for the most part is not the continent one should use as an example of socialism's failings because for the most part the combination of socialism and capitalism in Europe works about as well as it does in the United States.....and as such about as good as any economic system man has ever attempted.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:03 am to EmperorGout
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His ideas were insipid, his goals obscene, his strategy nothing if not reliably idiotic. Hitler maintains a decent highlight reel as a public speaker while being a complete and utter failure as a head of state in every facet such a position can be measured.
Pretty well describes Barack Hussein Obama.
"Rebellion to tyrants, is obedience to God" - Benjamin Franklin
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:03 am to Scoop
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Should have stayed the hell out of Russia.
Dude walked past a statue commemorating the Germans who died assailing Russia in the winter during the first world war every day that he was at headquarters in Munchen....it never crossed his mind why that statue was there OR he was arrogant enough to think Germany could prevail this time around. Either way it is fortunate for the rest of the world that he never stopped and pondered the meaning of this statue.....
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:15 am to Scoop
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This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 9:19 am
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:18 am to Swampcat
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Hitler was a narsasistic, psychopath who manipulated the German people
Manipulated? He was practically preaching to the choir. His stance on Jews, his hatred of France and the other European powers, and his desire to rebuild Germany into a world power by ripping up the Treaty of Versailles were all views shared by the common German.
Everything he did he said he was going to do. And the German people loved him all the same.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:23 am to DosManos
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IMO, demographic changes that would lead to a less homogenous population. I would think it would be a lot easier to implement socialist policies when everyone in the country looks the same. Here in America, we have too many different groups of people that think their individual cause if of the utmost importance. Whites vs. blacks. vs. gays vs. hispanics, etc.
Everyone is on a different page due to our fricking stupid politicians and educational establishment dividing and conquering us.
Doesn't wash....Germany has a pretty diverse population. So does the UK and Canada....all 3 have strong socialistic leanings and all 3 are doing pretty well. France has an EXTREMELY diverse population and has had for longer than the United States has existed.....diversity is not the problem, it is ignorance within that diversity that leads us to believe we have less in common than we do differences.
The Netherlands and Belgium also have large diverse populations and again are pretty socialistic and doing pretty well....the problem is not diversity it is in the acceptance of that diversity....
Posted on 1/11/14 at 9:30 am to germandawg
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the problem is not diversity it is in the acceptance of that diversity...
I think I disagree. I'm pretty sure a lot of those European countries are racist as hell. The UK is not doing well economically. Neither is France with their 75% income tax. Every couple of years the immigrants in Paris riot.
And I was initially referring specifically to Scandinavian countries. Remember those riots Sweden had the other year?
Stockholm Riots
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diversity is not the problem, it is ignorance within that diversity that leads us to believe we have less in common than we do differences.
I agree in spirit. But something tells me Germany is not successful because ethnic Germans appreciate how much they have in common with their fellow Turkish immigrants.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:11 am to DosManos
One of the main reasons Hitler was perceived to be the savior of the German people, thus his popularity, was that he murdered all his competition. Thus, there was never a second option with different opinions available for the people to consider. Too, the OP is giving him credit for everything he preached in his speeches as being the truth. Hitler was one of the world's biggest liars & to believe he meant all the "good" stuff he preached about is to give new meaning to the word naive.And to say the German people loved him to the end...the SS did, certainly, the other's in power to some extent.But the majority of the common people simply had no choice. He stopped being a "great leader" when he started his programs of mass murder against anyone who dared to be against him. The impact he had on the world was all negative. That does not compute to being great in my book.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:41 am to Keltic Tiger
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One of the main reasons Hitler was perceived to be the savior of the German people, thus his popularity, was that he murdered all his competition.
Not true at all. He didn't start murdering/bullying his enemies until he was already in power. Hitler and his Nazi Party were voted into power by fair and democratic elections. The people did this because they believed in him.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:42 am to FT
The thing about Hitler is that while no one could have fathomed him bringing about the Holocaust, his hatred of Jews should have been no surprise. Mein Kampf spelled it all out, and very early on.
Hitler's rise to power is a very fascinating case of what can happen when the masses want someone to blame for their plight and what they'll overlook to get someone in power who promises to help them out of it.
Hitler's rise to power is a very fascinating case of what can happen when the masses want someone to blame for their plight and what they'll overlook to get someone in power who promises to help them out of it.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:48 am to TerryDawg03
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Hitler's rise to power is a very fascinating case of what can happen when the masses want someone to blame for their plight and what they'll overlook to get someone in power who promises to help them out of it.
Exactly.
But this hatred for the Jews didn't just come from nowhere. Germany had been anti-semitic for a while with the ending of WWI being the high point of that anti-semiticism. The German people, not just Adolf Hitler, blamed Jews and communists for their defeat in the First World War.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 10:49 am to FT
Last week, I held in my hands the blood stained Bible and journal that my uncle had on him when he was killed the day after D-day. I was humbled by the experience. His commander was killed in the invasion, and he received a field promotion to lieutenant. He captured a small German Garrison and then led a depleted company into town, where he was shot between the eyes by a German sniper.
Excuse me if I don't subscribe to this greatness theory of yours. Hitler was the personification of evil and all its wiley ways. Greatness is/was in the men who faced death and led the way to freedom, not in those who ascribed to deceive a nation and commit atrocities.
You are misguided in your assessment.
Excuse me if I don't subscribe to this greatness theory of yours. Hitler was the personification of evil and all its wiley ways. Greatness is/was in the men who faced death and led the way to freedom, not in those who ascribed to deceive a nation and commit atrocities.
You are misguided in your assessment.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 11:15 am to deltaland
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His speeches are unreal. The way he controls his tone, facial expressions, body language and hand movements is perfection.
I would certainly put Hitler in my top 3 of orators over the last 100 years. The top American is generally considered to be Wm. Jennings Bryan. We do have some audio tapes of Bryan toward the end of his career but they are not of good quality.
The greatest orator in history is probably Marcus Tullius Cicero. We have a LOT of the texts of his speeches today. Some would argue that Demosthanes was No. 1. He is an interesting story since he had a speech impediment as a child.
That reminds me. James Earl Jones had a bad stuttering problem as a child.
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