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re: Here's what the Dems want if Trump isn't impeached

Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:11 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:11 am to
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Bill Clinton dealt with this and will be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time. Ronald Reagan the same.



Monica Lewinsky and Iran-Contra both happened late into their second terms. We are early in Trump's first term. There's a little difference here.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:12 am to
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This is exactly the kind of bs the dems have been losing seats over. Hypocrisy at its best. This is a waste of our money and time. When the smoke clears and they find nothing on Trump, it will be the nail in the coffin for the dems and the media. Hopefully the real scandals will emerge to include Hillary-uranium, all of Comeys memos forever (if they even exist, it may bite them on the arse. We can only hope. Then there is poor Seth who became another Clinton body bag. It will be interesting to say the least


This is the problem with partisan politics... you only want the truth if it benefits your side.

Americans are owed the truth, period. If that implicates Donald Trump, fine. If that implicates Hillary Clinton, fine. If that sends Comey to jail, fine. If everyone walks, fine. We should just want the truth, period. Anyone who wants anything other than that is cheating themselves and cheating their country - regardless of party affiliation.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:14 am to
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They will govern with constant fear of bombshell news being around the corner,"


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Sounds good. Hopefully, it will help keep him in line.


You don't have to tell us.

We already know that's what you traitors want.

However, it won't work.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:15 am to
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Monica Lewinsky and Iran-Contra both happened late into their second terms. We are early in Trump's first term. There's a little difference here.


You're right, there is a little difference for sure. However, both of those men and their administrations were able to rebound remarkably well. Trump can do the same. What we saw from Clinton and Reagan during their respective scandals was them putting their heads down and getting to work. They very publicly worked tirelessly on policy matters and assuring the American people they were still doing their job. They both saved their long term legacies by doing so.

Trump's legacy will be determined based on how he handles this. Play victim and wallow in self pity, or go to work? He's the only person that gets to make that decision.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 9:17 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:31 am to
There are people out there who are actually dumb enough to believe that if Trump is removed from office, Hillary automatically becomes president. I don't know whether to or . Do schools even teach Civics any more? Have we really become THAT stupid of a nation?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:33 am to
Where are these people?
Posted by CoachDon
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:33 am to
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Didn't seem to bother the Clintons.


Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:34 am to
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That's not a thread hijack, it was a direct response to this:


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It's not too much to ask though to give the man an actual opportunity to accomplish something before he's labeled a failure and all the other things they've tried to pin on him. They started this impeachment bullshite before the screens on the voting machines were even cold. It's insane and pathetic that more Democrats don't call out the idiocy of their party.


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We're having a fine conversation, and very much on topic. You're welcome for the thread bump.



The post you responded to was in response to your post in which you asked:

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Why are you people so afraid of some silly ol' investigation?


That's an attempt by you to hijack this thread and talk about what you want to talk about.

Why do you have to lie?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:34 am to
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Where are these people?


Probably on college campi and urban areas, I'm sure.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:42 am to
Well, there's another goal. If you interview dozens of people in the adm for 1,000s of hours of testimony there is a good chance that one of them will misspeak. Then they'll go to prison for lying under oath.
Remember Martha Stewart. She didn't go to prison for committing a crime. She went for answering a question incorrectly.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:44 am to
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Bill Clinton dealt with this and will be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:45 am to
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That's an attempt by you to hijack this thread and talk about what you want to talk about.


No, it was a direct response to the only contribution you made to the OP:

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That's what the Dums want, folks.


As in to say, who cares what he Dems want? Why are you so afraid of what they want? Is Trump good enough to handle that opposition or not? Clinton and Reagan both managed it very well.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:46 am to
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"They will govern with constant fear of bombshell news being around the corner,"


so in other words, status quo
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:49 am to
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NC_Tigah


Bill Clinton finished his Presidency with the highest December approval rating of any president since FDR. Laugh all you want.

In fact, it was smack dab in the middle of his impeachment that he reached his highest approval rating - 73% - which further solidifies my original point... Why are Trump supporters so on edge about this investigation?
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 9:51 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:54 am to
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Bill Clinton finished his Presidency with the 2nd highest approval rating
Yeah?
It was so high that AlGore avoided campaigning with him in 2000.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:58 am to
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That's an attempt by you to hijack this thread and talk about what you want to talk about.


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No, it was a direct response to the only contribution you made to the OP:


Keep lying, dude. That's all you traitors are good at.

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That's what the Dums want, folks.


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As in to say, who cares what he Dems want?


That's not what I meant and you know it.

Keep lying, dude.

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Why are you so afraid of what they want?


Telling people what the Dums want if they can't get President Trump impeached isn't being afraid of what the Dums want.

Keep lying, dude.

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Is Trump good enough to handle that opposition or not? Clinton and Reagan both managed it very well.


Start your own thread on that topic and I'll respond to your question there.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:01 am to
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That's not what I meant and you know it.


No, you imbecile, that's what I was interjecting.

You said "This is what the dems want."

I was saying "Who gives a shite what the dems want, why are you so afraid of what they want?"

It's not difficult. I responded directly to the only thing you contributed. Not sure what else you wanted. Again, you're welcome for continued thread bumps in an otherwise substance starved thread.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:02 am to
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Yeah?
It was so high that AlGore avoided campaigning with him in 2000.


It was high enough to be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time, whether you like it or not. And his highest approval rating came in the middle of his impeachment because he was so awesome at his job - even while being attacked from every angle by every right wing loonie alive. Will Trump be as successful?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:26 am to
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It was high enough to be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time
Higher than Truman?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:27 am to
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That's not what I meant and you know it.


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No, you imbecile, that's what I was interjecting.


And it was dumb.

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You said "This is what the dems want."


No, I said, "This is what the Dums want."

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I was saying "Who gives a shite what the dems want, why are you so afraid of what they want?"


It was an attempt by you to change the topic to your bullshite lie that telling people what the Dums want is being afraid of what the Dums want.

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I responded directly to the only thing you contributed. Not sure what else you wanted. Again, you're welcome for continued thread bumps in an otherwise substance starved thread.


Sometimes I start a thread that is just meant to inform people not to have the thread hijacked so another subject will be discussed in an attempt to bury the subject of the thread.
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