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re: help me understand affirmative action
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:33 pm to Tiguar
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:33 pm to Tiguar
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The opinion that there is no other explanation is mine. I could have a faulty opinion as I am not divine.
But you just acknowledged that my view is just as likely as your view. So you in essence believe there could be another explanation. Thats alot different than "there is no other explanation." Your confusing me now
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:34 pm to onmymedicalgrind
It was worded poorly, I'm having this discussion in a restaurant.
I'm right and brilliant you're wrong and silly. Better?
I'm right and brilliant you're wrong and silly. Better?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:38 pm to onmymedicalgrind
People like you are a fricking joke. "Maybe they interviewed better than you. "Maybe they had an amazing personal statement." Yeah maybe. Or maybe they got in because they are black. I liked the black students in my medical school class. Some of them very intelligent, but several made me wonder if the quality of my degree was getting watered down.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:39 pm to Tiguar
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I'm right and brilliant you're wrong and silly. Better?
Perfect! You should have just said this from the beginning, you would have saved us both some time
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:40 pm to onmymedicalgrind
According to you, I did.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:42 pm to AndyJ
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People like you are a fricking joke.
Why you so mad bro? Long day?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:44 pm to Tiguar
Dude I'm totally dyslexic. I definitely read that wrong and thought you were complementing me and not yourself.
Well with that being said, I take back my 2
Well with that being said, I take back my 2
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:44 pm to AndyJ
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Some of them very intelligent, but several made me wonder if the quality of my degree was getting watered down.
the Indian students in your class probably thought the same thing about you...
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:46 pm to AndyJ
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"Maybe they interviewed better than you. "Maybe they had an amazing personal statement." Yeah maybe.
Very possible.
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Or maybe they got in because they are black.
Also possible.
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Some of them very intelligent, but several made me wonder if the quality of my degree was getting watered down.
I can say this same thing about some of the white, Indian, Asian, and black people in my class.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:48 pm to dallastiger55
You said you'd mind losing a job to an unqualified black. Would you mind losing a job to an unqualified white woman? Because it is white women who benefit from AA.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:42 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Why you so mad bro? Long day
Lol
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:48 pm to inelishaitrust
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Affirmative action exists because white people are in charge, and they like to give jobs to their friends...folks who tend to be white.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:33 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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The Supreme Court has long held that you can't follow a "point or quota" system for racial means of admission.
Here's the problem -- it was called a quota and the Supreme Court said that colleges couldn't have quotas.
So, they just changed the name to Affirmative Action - where race could "be considered" in the same way that growing up on a farm could "be considered". MIRACULOUSLY, and lo and behold, these colleges just so happened to come out with the same numbers as the quota system.
So, some courts came out against Affirmative Action because it was clearly just another name for quota systems and instead of being "A factor" it was almost always "THE factor".
So, these colleges got together in the early '90's and just changed the name of "Affirmative Action" to "Diversity". They did nothing to change the programs -- you know, like look at a persons socio-economic background instead of JUST his/her RACE. And, in a true MIRACLE that even God couldn't explain, it just so happened that they got the same numbers as the quota and AA systems.
All it is, and all it has been, is PURE state-sponsored discrimination by 3 different names. And, it never helps the truly disadvantaged as it's wealthy and middle class blacks that take advantage of these token spots. And, the beauty for the liberal academics is that they get to pat themselves on the back, telling themselves how great and nonracist they are for instituting these lower standards for middle class and wealthy blacks, all the while never having to really deal with the true inner city poor blacks in our society.
And, in true liberal fashion, realizing that these kids aren't capable of competing against students who deserve to be there, they literally created bullsh!t and bogus degree programs -- like African-American Studies -- so that they can make sure these nonqualified applicants can get a degree without having to meet the rigorous academic requirements of the real students.
And, they still think that they're not racist.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:34 pm to LSUfanalways
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Because it is white women who benefit from AA.
That is one of the biggest lies out there that could only be believed by a complete f*cking idiot with an IQ in the single digits.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:52 pm to dallastiger55
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dallastiger55
help me understand affirmative action
This isn't what you really want.
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its BS
see?
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and i cant imagine busting my arse and getting a MBA and losing out to a candidate that is half as qualified as me just because they are black
That isn't what affirmative action is. But that is what a lot of white failures think it is.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:54 pm to SpidermanTUba
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That isn't what affirmative action is. But that is what a lot of white failures think it is.
K what is it then?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:00 pm to fleaux
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K what is it then?
OP claimed AA means a black guy who is half as qualified as a white guy gets the job.
I would challenge you to find an affirmative action policy that actually states that.
The "Rooney Rule" - for instance - is affirmative action. It makes no requirement that less qualified black candidates get the job. Its more about access. You have to be well aware that basically everything in life still runs on the good ole boy system. AA - at least in the modern sense - is about access to that system - not preferential treatment.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:05 pm to SpidermanTUba
I think the Rooney Rule is crap, how many times have we already known who a team was hiring but they had to call in a black coach just so they officially interviewed him
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:14 pm to fleaux
quote:i know you do.
I think the Rooney Rule is crap
quote:it sounds like a horrible burden for you to bear. i'm so sorry you have to deal with that. at least you caught an arithmetic error the other day. you've got that at least.
how many times have we already known who a team was hiring but they had to call in a black coach just so they officially interviewed him
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:19 pm to SpidermanTUba
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i know you do.
it sounds like a horrible burden for you to bear. i'm so sorry you have to deal with that.
you're so tied up in your biases you can't even see when somebody is agreeing with you about something
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