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re: Health Insurers in Florida Request Premium Rate Hikes as High as 71%
Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:44 pm to GurleyGirl
Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:44 pm to GurleyGirl
One thing we do know that cannot be denied. Obama LIED. I am waiting on my 2500 dollar savings while I keep my doctor.
Hans Gruber's cousin admitted it.
Hans Gruber's cousin admitted it.
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:48 pm to roadGator
quote:
Say it all you want. The fact is that ACA needs more money to survive. That money has to be taken from someone.
Without government taking from others ACA implodes.
People don't even know how many places and how much is taken.
For instance, everyone's dental insurance premium (fully insured) is taxed so that money can be taken from one and given to another. There are more of course.
Again, all charges that apply to every single sector of the healthcare economy.
60-65% of all healthcare spending is already publicly financed or subsidized. Including all those sectors I just mentioned.
Its disingenuous from someone like you, who knows better, to sit around and pretend like this is some unique arrangement, unique only to the ACA market.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 3:00 pm to bonhoeffer45
Your side needs to be honest with the public and tell them how much you want from each taxpayer. Until then, lets keep that number at 60-65%.
We don't need more smoke and mirrors.
We don't need more smoke and mirrors.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:01 pm to roadGator
quote:
Your side needs to be honest with the public and tell them how much you want from each taxpayer. Until then, lets keep that number at 60-65%.
We don't need more smoke and mirrors.
Well this isn't an issue about allocating new resources, this about whether the president is going to actually abide by current obligations.
You know, like the current obligation to exclude any and all new wage benefits from taxation regardless of how much premiums climb from you in your glass house, selling private insurance in that tax subsidized employer marketplace.
You seem silent on attacking that market space that is also the beneficiary of an open-ended government commitment and obligation.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:05 pm to bonhoeffer45
We disagree. No big deal. I don't want the corridor payments made and it cost my parent company half a billion dollars.
Dems should tell America that they want to make their health care more expensive by removing section 125 of the IRS code though. They can get even quickly. Just gotta win a few elections.
Dems should tell America that they want to make their health care more expensive by removing section 125 of the IRS code though. They can get even quickly. Just gotta win a few elections.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:05 pm to Antonio Moss
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Quite possible the worst piece of domestic legislation in US history.
When the party that created it is now basically running on the fact that the other party has not yet come up with a good enough plan to "fix" it, it pretty much says everything you need to know in this regard.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:06 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:
You seem silent on attacking that market space that is also the beneficiary of an open-ended government commitment and obligation.
I'm trying to figure out why a disruption report is off and get 3 quotes worked up.
It's our busiest time of year.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:16 pm to roadGator
quote:
We disagree. No big deal. I don't want the corridor payments made and it cost my parent company half a billion dollars.
Dems should tell America that they want to make their health care more expensive by removing section 125 of the IRS code though. They can get even quickly. Just gotta win a few elections.
Just don't bullshite me around is all I ask roadgator.
You work in a job that is propped up by an open-ended government obligation that tax subsidizes employer insurance to help bring down rates for employees in large corporations, and than turn around and moralize about the nature of an open-ended cost sharing program that is aimed at individual market.
quote:
Dems should tell America that they want to make their health care more expensive by removing section 125 of the IRS code though. They can get even quickly. Just gotta win a few elections.
They don't do it for the same reason Republicans backed off the same desire earlier this year, people in your industry, and the business community writ large, want to keep their sweet, sweet tax subsidies. So they come down with a fury if even a whisper of pulling it away gets mentioned.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:19 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:No Kidding!
You could say all that about Medicare, Medicaid
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:23 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:
You work in a job that is propped up by an open-ended government obligation that tax subsidizes employer insurance to help bring down rates for employees in large corporations, and then turn around and moralize about the nature of an open-ended cost sharing program that is aimed at individual market.
Vote for candidates that will put removing the tax subsidies on their agenda.
You want more government handouts. I don't. Sometimes it's easier just to keep it simple.
Your candidate should look to get even by removing section 125 if you feel like it's unfair. I'm good with a candidate running on that platform. They should yell that from the mountain tops.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:27 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:FALSE!
You work in a job that is propped up by an open-ended government obligation that tax subsidizes employer insurance to help bring down rates for employees in large corporations
The higher the tax rate, the further the loopholes and write-offs. In our case, employee tax expensing, depreciation write offs, etc. are all components of the most expensive corporate tax system in the world. You note an "open-ended government obligation that tax subsidizes employer insurance." Are employee salaries similarly tax subsidized?
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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FALSE!
Don't get so triggered NC. It is absolutely the case. No matter how many contortionist acts you want to resign yourself to drag Trump tax reform talking points into here, it is a government induced tax subsidy that functions as an open ended-obligation.
One that is, yes, regressive(a bad feature of it). As the savings increase with the larger, more expensive plans, which are typically afforded to the higher income workers in the company.
I'm all for creating greater efficiency in the tax code, but I promise you, just like with healthcare, tax subsidies like this will not ever get touched in tax reform. Despite them being a major pathway to lowering that overall corporate rate. If Trump truly wanted landmark tax reform, not just tax cuts for the wealthy.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:41 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:Is "triggered" the new socialistic term for the calling out of ignorance and/or duplicity?
Don't get so triggered NC. It is absolutely the case.
quote:Irrelevant
Trump tax reform
quote:Exactly as are employee salaries and other expenses.
it is a government induced tax subsidy that functions as an open ended-obligation.
Sorry.
quote:You promise me?
but I promise you, just like with healthcare, tax subsidies like this will not ever get touched in tax reform.
Really?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:45 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Is "triggered" the new socialistic term for the calling out of ignorance and/or duplicity?
Nah, just for when forum dwellers go into barely coherent rants using all caps and spitting out hastily thrown together talking points and objections to seemingly try and fish for some silly side topic to argue about.
Seems after you got that little earlier rant of no value off your chest, you don't really have much else to add.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:55 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:Now THAT is some "triggered" commentary.
using all caps and spitting out hastily thrown together talking points and objections to seemingly try and fish for some silly side topic to argue about.
quote:So you are going the ignorance rather than duplicity route? I'm not yet a believer, but considering your recent posts, I'm open to the claim.
you don't really have much else to add
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:58 pm to NC_Tigah
Where is BamaATL saying we're all ignorant and all is well...nothing to see here?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 4:59 pm to cajunangelle
That fricking piece of shite Obama (not to mention the current worthless GOP) has made it nearly impossible for middle america to carry healthcare. Working Americans get jobbed for the worthless fricks.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 5:12 pm to back9Tiger
quote:At least there is a chance bonhoeffer may mean well. He simply lacks personal exposure to understand important elements of international care.
Where is BamaATL saying we're all ignorant
OTOH, BamaATL is a self-interested loser. Sad case, that.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 6:08 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
At least there is a chance bonhoeffer may mean well. He simply lacks personal exposure to understand important elements of international care.
OTOH, BamaATL is a self-interested loser. Sad case, that.
Going for the virtue signaling angle full time now in these threads I see.
Such a shame.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 6:11 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:Anything to actually add? Duplicity vs ignorance is in the balance.
Going for the virtue signaling angle full time now in these threads I see.
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