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re: Has govt ever defied a president like this?

Posted on 2/4/17 at 12:45 am to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29412 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 12:45 am to
A download?

frick you Iosh. You're a fricking douchebag.

This quote discribes you perfectly.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

You're fricking lost in the wilderness. 
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 12:46 am
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 12:49 am to
The judge was appointed by Bush
And he is a known LIBERAL
You disinformation lunatic
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 12:52 am to
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Do you think the constitution is wrong?

This is not a constitutional argument. It's a procedure, due process, preservation of status quo argument. No foreign national is being denied due process by having their visa held until a hearing can be conducted in 2 weeks. There is no irreparable harm for which there is no adequate remedy at law.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6932 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 12:59 am to
Did you read the ruling?

It states the executive order negatively impacts the economic status on the states.

This is a classic case of federal over reach.

And I forgot who posted saying this federal judge was appointed by Bush but is a liberal...where are the conservative voices saying it was a bad appointment?
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 1:00 am
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:05 am to
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All 5 judges have ruled against him so far. He will have to appeal to get a favorable ruling. Where is Jeff Sessions?


Not all 5: NY Post I like the Boston judge much better than the Seattle one. Boston judge asks plaintiff attorney, "show me where it says Muslims".
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:12 am to
I read the injunction.

The Court's "findings" were NOTHING. The Court stated NO FACTS to support its injunction. All the Court did was state that the burden was met.



That is the biggest pile of shite I have ever seen from a United States District Court. Jesus Cow Herding Christ!!!


There are NO FACTUAL DETAILS as to why the Plaintiffs proved CLEARLY that:

1) that there is a likelihood of irreparable harm with no adequate remedy at law;

2) that the balance of harm favors the movant;

3) that there is a likelihood of success on the merits of the case; and

4) that the public interest favors the granting of the injunction.

THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF ANY OF THOSE ELEMENTS! It is entirely the opposite.


This injunction is PURELY political and SHOULD be immediately reversed. Goddammit, I am getting so fricking tired of the blatant usurpation of power and lack of respect for law or office.

We need a fricking WAR.




Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:17 am to
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It states the executive order negatively impacts the economic status on the states.

By definition, the plaintiffs have an adequate remedy at law. They can seek money damages from the federal government-=an adequate remedy.



This CANNOT be a matter of mere incompetence. This is pure judicial misconduct and it BETTER be IMMEDIATELY overturned.


Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5776 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:21 am to
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The judge was appointed by Bush and is a known conservative


Yeah, and so was John Roberts who supposedly "re-wrote" the ACA to make it a tax and allegedly constitutional. However, we were told the whole time it was "laughingly" debated with a majority Democrat Congress, and passed using closure rules, that it was NOT a tax!
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:30 am to
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Yeah, and so was John Roberts who supposedly "re-wrote" the ACA to make it a tax and allegedly constitutional. However, we were told the whole time it was "laughingly" debated with a majority Democrat Congress, and passed using closure rules, that it was NOT a tax!

If I were sitting on that case, and I heard evidence that the legislative body explicitly denied that it was a tax, I would have rejected the tax argument; however, I cannot fully fault Roberts for his decision. They don't have to call it a tax in the act. They can deny that it's a tax to the public, but if it has the effect of a tax (looks like a duck, quacks like a duck), Congress has the power to levy such a tax. If anything, I can respect Roberts for making that decision, because it was probably the correct decision, as much as I hate to say it. He didn't decide the politically prudent outcome, then formulate his reasoning to support that outcome.

I would have taken them at their word and held that it was NOT a tax, as they stated.

Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:43 am to
quote:

The judge was appointed by Bush and is a known conservative.


John Roberts says hello
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3552 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:03 am to
quote:

I read the injunction.

The Court's "findings" were NOTHING. The Court stated NO FACTS to support its injunction. All the Court did was state that the burden was met.



That is the biggest pile of shite I have ever seen from a United States District Court. Jesus Cow Herding Christ!!!


There are NO FACTUAL DETAILS as to why the Plaintiffs proved CLEARLY that:

1) that there is a likelihood of irreparable harm with no adequate remedy at law;

2) that the balance of harm favors the movant;

3) that there is a likelihood of success on the merits of the case; and

4) that the public interest favors the granting of the injunction.

THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF ANY OF THOSE ELEMENTS! It is entirely the opposite.


This injunction is PURELY political and SHOULD be immediately reversed. Goddammit, I am getting so fricking tired of the blatant usurpation of power and lack of respect for law or office.

We need a fricking WAR.





Now this is a MELT to be proud of!
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8286 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:09 am to
quote:

The judge was appointed by Bush and is a known conservative.


George W. Bush was and is a globalist shill.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24573 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:11 am to
quote:

We need a fricking WAR.


Start one pussy
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 3:30 am to
quote:

letting in potential terrorists without vetting


quote:

the FLOODGATE of sheep fricking terrorists that are allowed to come in without proper vetting


I think you are a retard. You still need a VISA to come into the US. It's not easy to obtain one. Vetting has never stopped.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23659 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 4:57 am to
Would any of you levied these ridiculous allegations against these ordinary travelers at this time if your king trump hadn't issued his arbitrary decree? Of course not. Anyone upset now is a mental pawn, so weak of mind that you are angry about nothing for no reason other than having been told to be angry by your dear leader.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42525 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 5:14 am to
quote:

Here is the document

Pure babble -

SO - they say they are "protecting the residents of this country

-- because of the irreparable harm

---- to the universities and institutions of higher learning.

---- and to the states tax base" - etc ad nauseam

Please explain that bullshite to the untrained ear.

What the heck is 'irreparable' about a temporary delay while vetting is being performed - when it only takes from a few hours or a day or so to vet someone who really belongs here. And if they don't belong here, then their asses should NEVER be allowed to come in.

Where is the irreparable harm?

and please don't snicker when you try to describe the harm to the universities and the tax base.

This is pure bullshite of the chili-shite variety.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 6:20 am to
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The judge was appointed by Bush and is a known conservative.



You are a liar.

"Known conservatives" do not support BLM.

You probably ought not spout bullshite that obviously has been disproven earlier on this board
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 6:30 am to
JFK was killed for defying the government. The pubs when Obama was in office fought him at every turn even when It came to helping America. They'd rather watch the country fail than see Obama succeed. The tea party garbage was just like BLM and was the original SJW movement. The guy that just left had to deal with way more shite. 100% of what Trump is dealing with is his creation. You Trumpkins are such snowflakes.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 6:39 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 6:44 am to
Agree. Declare war now and I'll be in Cali killing libs by noon.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 6:59 am to
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