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re: Has govt ever defied a president like this?

Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:10 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:10 am to
If you are willing to talk about this rather than your normal trolling, I'll respond.

Yes and no. It is my understanding that those two particular countries share information with us regarding who is and who is not coming into the country. The others, not so much.

Now, being able to trust them is an entrirely different scenario.

The Obama admin idendified these same 7 countries. Obama was no dummy. There must be something extra ordinary about these 7.

Of my two ifs presented, it appears that you believe Trump is just being mean to Muslims in these 7 countries. Does that make sense to you?

When you slow down and really think about the motivations then I don't see how you can come up with the "being mean to Muslims in seven specifice countries" option.

You may be able to do that. Hit me with it.
Posted by Humanelement
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
1366 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:12 am to
Lower district Federal judges were never intended to be checks on our executive branch and you fukin well know that
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:12 am to
You have no clue what you are talking about.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6932 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:14 am to
If there is a reason those 7 countries are extraordinary then what are they?

Why hasn't trump articulated that and explained why Pakistan and Saudi American visa holders can flow free as wind into the us?

Why does trump trust that intelligence Obama had?

Trump said Obama made bad deals. Then why is this a good deal?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:18 am to
Just say he's mean to those 7 and be done with it. It's clear that is your train of thought. You haven't offered anything else.
Posted by ChicagoTiger
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2007
5492 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:25 am to
No one said the Judge is bought by Soros? Because he's paid all those people to protest, right?

#alternativefacts
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3642 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:33 am to
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Completely ignoring EOs, judges blocking shite with no legal reason. It's fricking ridiculous

Complete disrespect for the president


Federal Judge Who Halted Obama's Immigration Executive Order Leaves Block in Place - For Now


Federal Judge Blocks Obama Administration's Overtime Pay Rule



Judge Rules on Bush's Order About Presidential Records


I couldn't find any "ignoring of executive orders" expect for one Republican Congressman telling the military to ignore one about scaling back the military

Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37686 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:40 am to
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Damn you pulled their panties off and fricked the shite out of em...right in front of their kids.

This quote made me lol, even though you're a liberal shite
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:49 am to
We've never have an idiot like this in office before.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:12 am to
quote:

In the current matter, letting in potential terrorists without vetting UNQUESTIONABLY outweighs the passive, potential burden on Washington or Minnesota.


This is unquestionably a misunderstanding of the facts as they are.

We might even call them 'alternative facts'.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:19 am to
quote:

mahdragonz


Serious question. Why are you lying freaks so adamant about allowing illegals/refugees into the United States? Especially muslims. We already know you freaks want them to go along side with the "democrat" vote. But what y'all's other angle with this? Please provide your answers, even though I know y'all are full of shite either way.



Next few serious questions for you, freak. Have you ever housed any illegals/refugees in your home?
Will you be taking in any illegals/refugees into your home and begin housing them? If you say yes to either of those two questions I will call you a bold faced liar!
I you answer no to any of those two questions, please explain why you didn't and won't be taking any in!
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:34 am to
Ha.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:55 am to
Trump will have to force thousands of career appointees notes out of the government before he will be able to force the various agencies to change course. The DOJ and sub agencies are filled with progressives. Every alphabet agency needs a house cleaning. The State Department is a disaster. TIllerson is going to clean house over there. I'm sure it's already started.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7770 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:39 am to
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Just say he's mean to those 7 and be done with it. It's clear that is your train of thought. You haven't offered anything else.


You asked him for reason, he gave it to you, and now youre deflecting because there is no answer to any of that. It is hypocritcal. I do not think Trump is being mean to those 7 muslim countries but i absolutely take issue with the inconsistencies he pointed out.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23660 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:49 am to
I haven't seen and "defiance" by the courts. They are not under the President's control. The constitution grants to the courts the power to declare the legality of laws and decrees. Trump does not have unlimited power.
Posted by PhoenixLSUTiger
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2007
1410 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:54 am to
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Where were the checks and balances with Barry?


They were there just like they are now. Just because a ruling doesn't go your way, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:55 am to
Um. No. He answered questions with questions. My wife uses the same strategy.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23660 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:55 am to
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The Obama admin idendified these same 7 countries. Obama was no dummy. There must be something extra ordinary about these 7.


Shame you Republicans keep repeating this as if it was true. It isn't and your sources and the President's apologists are giving you false information. If you want the truth, I will give it to you, but you have to either keep your mouth shut or look it up yourself and find actual disputed facts.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:57 am to
You mean sources like CNN?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84835 posts
Posted on 2/4/17 at 12:00 pm to
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Lower district Federal judges were never intended to be checks on our executive branch and you fukin well know that


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