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Has Freedom Caucus ever voted FOR anything that became law?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:51 am
Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:51 am
Don't know the answer.
Say what you want about the Dems, at least they vote for what they believe, even if misguided.
Say what you want about the Dems, at least they vote for what they believe, even if misguided.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 11:52 am
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 11:57 am to KwoodTiger
You're conflating two very different issues with what went down yesterday.
Yeah, the Freedom Caucus is a bunch of obstructionist nutjobs but I'm not seeing what was so great about that legislation, from the conservative perspective.
It was essentially more expensive and less expansive Obamacare.
Yeah, the Freedom Caucus is a bunch of obstructionist nutjobs but I'm not seeing what was so great about that legislation, from the conservative perspective.
It was essentially more expensive and less expansive Obamacare.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:00 pm to KwoodTiger
HFC weren't the only Republicans that bailed on the bill. Several moderate ones did too, albeit after the amendment aimed at pleasing the HFC.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:00 pm to KwoodTiger
If you can't compromise you can't legislate. If you can't legislate you can't govern. If you can't govern you can't maintain power. You can however, maintain your ideological purity, which is the currency a lot of these guys value the most. Some people are just happier being the " lone voice of reason". It's a very self- flattering place to be . That's why Many Conservatives relish being in the minority party and are uncomfortable wielding power. They prefer the wilderness to an imperfect town that they helped build.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:02 pm to KwoodTiger
The HFC wants less government in your life, therefore they very rarely if ever vote for more legislation unless it's to reign in government
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:02 pm to KwoodTiger
Did you actually like the proposed law, or are you simply upset that your team didn't win this round?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:04 pm to KwoodTiger
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Say what you want about the Dems, at least they vote for what they believe, even if misguided.
maybe voting "no" to big government expansionism is voting for what they believe?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:06 pm to Walking the Earth
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It was essentially more expensive and less expansive Obamacare.
...and would not have been anywhere close to the bill that wound up on Trumps desk. Let the senate work on it...let it go to conference. Maybe then...As it stands now, they laid a turd in the punch bowl.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:09 pm to KwoodTiger
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Say what you want about the Dems, at least they vote for what they believe, even if misguided.
When you believe that government gums up the works, fewer laws is better than more. And, when the default position of everybody else in government is to expqnd government, there must be opposition. It's their job.
They're right about that.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:10 pm to KwoodTiger
unlike other caucuses'. they are fairly new. there is also the liberty caucus who in a way combined with them. they are too new to have accomplished much w/o getting shut down and audited by the IRS.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:10 pm to Joshjrn
quote:No one liked the law. It was a the requisite means to an end. ACHA was not the end. It was the necessary first step. That was poorly explained to the public, but it was WELL UNDERSTOOD amongst the HFC.
Did you actually like the proposed law, or are you simply upset that your team didn't win this round?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:11 pm to Lsupimp
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If you can't compromise you can't legislate. If you can't legislate you can't govern. If you can't govern you can't maintain power. You can however, maintain your ideological purity, which is the currency a lot of these guys value the most. Some people are just happier being the " lone voice of reason". It's a very self- flattering place to be . That's why Many Conservatives relish being in the minority party and are uncomfortable wielding power. They prefer the wilderness to an imperfect town that they helped build.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:14 pm to NC_Tigah
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No one liked the law. It was a the requisite means to an end. ACHA was not the end. It was the necessary first step. That was poorly explained to the public, but it was WELL UNDERSTOOD amongst the HFC.
So instead of carefully crafting legislation and taking the time to explain it, Republicans decided that we needed to pass it to see what was going to be in it?
And this makes sense to you?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:34 pm to Joshjrn
quote:False.
Republicans decided that we needed to pass it to see what was going to be in it?
We knew what was in the House Proposal.
Much of the public simply didn't know why.
When the Kochs started seeding anti-ACHA money around the HFC, it became evident the HFC would have no interest in explaining to constituents why the bill had to preserve so many expensive obamacare regs.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:46 pm to KwoodTiger
Freedom Caucus is just a bunch of evangelicals. They have no interest in passing legislation or governing. They are there simply to yell and be a microphone for special interests
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:52 pm to tiger1014
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Freedom Caucus is just a bunch of evangelicals. They have no interest in passing legislation or governing. They are there simply to yell and be a microphone for special interests
This is false. Religion has nothing to do with it. There was a time when things were good and decent. Men and women in DC had character, before pure greed and self interests fully took over. They actually served us not themselves. This is all the HFC is. It is nothing new; but it is new to the current day concept of progressive SJW political correctness garbage.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:54 pm to KwoodTiger
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Say what you want about the Dems, at least they vote for what they believe, even if misguided.
This is retarded. Remember prohibition? They voted for what they believed too
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:55 pm to Walking the Earth
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Yeah, the Freedom Caucus is a bunch of obstructionist nutjobs but I'm not seeing what was so great about that legislation, from the conservative perspective.
The problem is the Freedom Caucus will likely be just as obstructionist to more widely accepted parts of Trump's platform- infrastructure spending for instance will likely only pass if Ryan is okay with forming a center left- center right coalition.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 1:07 pm to KwoodTiger
Why in the hell is it always assumed that more laws are a good thing?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 1:12 pm to montanagator
These groups should be there to shape legislation and ensure they get some provisions that satisfy their interest. The problem is that they decide to hijack the legislative process and block it all together because they can't get everything they want leaving the citizens with the impression that the GOP can't deliver what it promised.
If the GOP can't deliver what it promises, what do you think is going to happen in 2020?
If the GOP can't deliver what it promises, what do you think is going to happen in 2020?
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