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Has does Nuclear Power fit into Paris Deal?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:09 pm
I vaguely remember Europe using nuclear power as a major source of energy. US relies very little on nuclear an no new nuclear plants are allowed bc of environmental concerns.
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:11 pm to STEVED00
quote:Which is dumb as hell because you will get more radiation from living near a coal plant than nuclear plant.
US relies very little on nuclear an no new nuclear plants are allowed bc of environmental concerns.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:17 pm to Iosh
Not arguing for or against nuclear. My point is US can't switch to nuclear power so will basically be forced to pay fines bc really can't lower the HC usage.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:19 pm to STEVED00
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:22 pm to STEVED00
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Has does
Why come?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:23 pm to graychef
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eta: 20% of US electricity is generated from nuclear plants.
Yep, and we need to make it at least 75% imo. Technology since the 1950's (when most current plants were designed) has gotten better. There are meltdown proof designs now and alternative fuels like Thorium.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:24 pm to graychef
Yes there are 4 under construction and they are all way over budget and way behind schedule and will end up costing 3-4x original estimates.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:24 pm to AUstar
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:25 pm to STEVED00
Ask gay want, 1 want or yeller want. They are PA experts.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:25 pm to LifeTimeTiger2
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:27 pm to STEVED00
It actually is not illegal in all states. A new nuclear reactor was brought online in Tennessee just last year. Other reactors are in construction right now such as one in South Carolina and one in Georgia. I know a couple of states like Minnesota and New York have banned it completely.
About your question, I don't know if nuclear power was involved in the Paris Agreement. I do, however, wish we would focus more on nuclear energy because there are some interesting possibilities with Thorium Reactors that could help to alleviate a lot of fear involved with nuclear energy.
About your question, I don't know if nuclear power was involved in the Paris Agreement. I do, however, wish we would focus more on nuclear energy because there are some interesting possibilities with Thorium Reactors that could help to alleviate a lot of fear involved with nuclear energy.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:39 pm to graychef
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I'm genuinely curious - what are the reasons?
Just a guess, does it involve any of these:
1) A small fish
2) Wetlands
3) Water temperature from cooling reactors returning to a stream
4) Disposal costs for spent rods
5) Redundant regulatory requirements
6) Regulators can't make decisions due to bureaucratic overload or inability to understand critical problem solving results
Hell, what do I know, surely it's all the prime contractor's fault.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:41 pm to larry289
Bingo! Over regulation
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:47 pm to LifeTimeTiger2
We need thorium power baby
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:14 am to STEVED00
I work a lot in the nuclear industry. I am actually currently badged at VC Summer where two of the new units are being constructed.
These two along with the two in Georgia (Votgle) were bid as turn key fixed fee jobs. The manufacturers (Westinghouse, Toshiba and Flour) nicknamed WTF are WAY over budget and losing billions of dollars. I am of the opinion that the actual cost to build these plants will makes them too expensive to be cost effective. These four under construction will be the last ones for a long time, until something causes the economic to change. WTF will probably have to eat a lot of losses this time but not again.
The NRC has driving the cost up tremendously for these plants. Entergy owns 10 nuclear units with 5 in the south and 5 in the north. They have already announced shutting down all five northern plants (one may stay open since a buyer has been found). Three of the southern units are on thin ice and nobody would be surprised if they got axed as well. They had 11 a few years ago but closed one in Vermont, mainly because of the state government taxing it out of profitability.
Maybe I am wrong but I don't foresee anyone else willing to commit to what these new units will end up costing.
These two along with the two in Georgia (Votgle) were bid as turn key fixed fee jobs. The manufacturers (Westinghouse, Toshiba and Flour) nicknamed WTF are WAY over budget and losing billions of dollars. I am of the opinion that the actual cost to build these plants will makes them too expensive to be cost effective. These four under construction will be the last ones for a long time, until something causes the economic to change. WTF will probably have to eat a lot of losses this time but not again.
The NRC has driving the cost up tremendously for these plants. Entergy owns 10 nuclear units with 5 in the south and 5 in the north. They have already announced shutting down all five northern plants (one may stay open since a buyer has been found). Three of the southern units are on thin ice and nobody would be surprised if they got axed as well. They had 11 a few years ago but closed one in Vermont, mainly because of the state government taxing it out of profitability.
Maybe I am wrong but I don't foresee anyone else willing to commit to what these new units will end up costing.
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 12:17 am
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:17 am to eelsuee
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The NRC has driving the cost up tremendously for these plants.
And why (or how) are they doing that?
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:20 am to STEVED00
France is about 75% nuclear and, as a result, has some of the cheapest, most reliable and low-carbon generation in Europe. Their average retail power cost per kWh (in the low teens of cents) is lower than much of the U.S. and not too far off even from the regions currently most benefitting from historically low natural gas prices.
That said, France also has significantly lower natural disaster risk than the U.S., so the threat of a widespread nuclear calamity is much lower.
That said, France also has significantly lower natural disaster risk than the U.S., so the threat of a widespread nuclear calamity is much lower.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:47 am to graychef
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eta: 20% of US electricity is generated from nuclear plants. 34% natural gas. 30% coal. 15% renewables.
I'm guessing 90% of that 15% is hydroelectric?
Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:55 am to AUstar
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There are meltdown proof designs now and alternative fuels like Thorium.
Is this like an unsinkable ship?
Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:24 am to graychef
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Four nuclear plants are under construction in the US right now. eta: 20% of US electricity is generated from nuclear plants. 34% natural gas. 30% coal. 15% renewables.
Nuclear us the future for everyone....natural gas is a much better place holder than coal but nuclear is the future.......ain't going to happen in any of our kids lifetimes but when our grand kids are nearing middle age nuclear is going to start ramping up and become main source of electricity for the entire world......
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