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re: Gov Perry indicted.

Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:15 pm to
it's stupid ... perry's an idiot, but even the pubs know that ... the dipshit da should've resigned ... this does nothing for wendy davis vs greg abbot ... he could slap a baby hard enough to put it in a hospital and still get elected ... davis is just as much an idiot as perry is ...
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:32 pm to
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davis is just as much an idiot as perry is ...




Perry governed one of the largest and most successful states in the Union. Wendy Davis a joke compared to him. And considering Perry is a goof despite his successes, that's saying something.
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:36 pm to
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I'm not a Texan and not a perry fan but this reeks of political bullshite from a mile away.. Much worse than the crap he's charged with..


I'm a Texan and far from a Perry "fan". Kinda a he's an idiot, but he's our idiot (that has done great things for our economy) type of fan at best.

The whole thing is BS.

Our country cries out for public figures to not be above the law and this wainch acts like she should be insulted to be asked to stepped down.

Perry called for accountability, it wasn't met so he did what he could as a governor.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:41 pm to
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Just so we're clear, you believe the drunk's office had nothing to do with the initiation of an investigation or the appointment of a special prosecutor (mother fricking lulz*) to this?
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I love how he thinks special prosecutors are just moving around the state investigating cases.

They are brought in specifically for instances like this where the DA's office would have an obvious conflict of interest. However, they are only brought in at the request of that same office.
Swing and a miss, again. The investigation was initiated based on a complaint by a liberal watchdog group (TPJ) and Travis County was on the case for literally 24 hours after the complaint was received before they recused themselves. And it wasn't just the DA's office, but the entire Travis County court. They kicked it up to the presiding judge (Stubblefield) who chose a special judge (Richardson) who chose McCrum. Some pretty weak tea you're brewing.

To the extent that the case is about Perry's handling of their PIU funding, the Travis DA's Office is "involved," but I don't see any evidence that they're secretly pulling the strings here. TPJ is liberal, but Richardson and McCrum are both Bush appointees. And if you want to try to incept that shite, Stubblefield was a Perry appointee. (The thing about Travis is it's really an island. You can't kick it very far up the chain before hitting Reps.)

Again, I'm not convinced of the merits of the charges either way. A grand jury indictment in Texas means little, and I don't know the specifics of the corruption statute. But I see zero evidence that this is some partisan scheme beyond fact-free wagon-circling. TPJ is liberal, but their complaint has been pursued entirely by Republican-appointed judges and prosecutors.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 10:52 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:49 pm to
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But I see zero evidence that this is some partisan scheme beyond fact-free wagon-circling.

why not wait until after the election ?

is there some sort of statute of limitations in play?

secondary question: does TX not have a state policing agency for just this sort of conflict? i just can't see why this is going through a country DA's office
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 10:53 pm
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:56 pm to
I bet your dumb azz likes the POS president we have who is the biggest criminal in the history of US politics.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 11:44 pm
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
1182 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:58 pm to
Perry's lawyer has billed the state $80,000 since June.

Small government and spending slasher ... Unless it's his pocket. Thanks, mofo!
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:00 pm to
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why not wait until after the election ?

is there some sort of statute of limitations in play?
After which election?

This isn't going to affect the governor's race. Abbott isn't really Perry's boy. This isn't nearly the level of force majeure it would take to get Davis into the governor's mansion.

If you're talking about the Presidential election, you'd be running into the time limit for special grand juries. Plus a judge and a prosecutor are going to be disinclined to sit on an indictment for the convenience of the defendant specifically.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 11:01 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:06 pm to
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Perry's lawyer has billed the state $80,000 since June.

Small government and spending slasher ... Unless it's his pocket. Thanks, mofo!


How much would he have spent if some spiteful drunk didn't work to get baseless charges brought against him? Or should he not use a lawyer for this?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:08 pm to
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I bey your dumb azz likes the POS president we have who is the biggest criminal in the history of US politics.
I bet you're wrong. I win!
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:11 pm to
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secondary question: does TX not have a state policing agency for just this sort of conflict? i just can't see why this is going through a country DA's office
It's not. Procedure in this case is the presiding judge (who oversees about 20-ish counties) appoints a special judge from outside the county to oversee the case where the DA's office has a conflict. Which is what happened here.

Over/under on how many posts until someone else who can't read says this is going through the DA's office: 6
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 11:15 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:13 pm to
This is fricking gold:

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McDonald told KVUE he is pleased the jury returned felony charges in lieu of misdemeanor charges, and now he believes Gov. Perry should step down from office.


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However McDonald said he does not believe Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg, who Gov. Perry is accused of withholding money from, should step down.


LINK

So the woman who was actually convicted of her crime should remain in office but the guy that simply has an indictment should step down. Got it.

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62901 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:14 pm to
Do you find it odd/scary that it could be so that a governor using his veto power to maintain integrity in government may be declared a felon and removed from office, but a DA driving drunk and endangering the lives of people in her community doesn't even warrant a moment of reflection on her part, with a very much deserved shameful resignation from her office?

Or since you don't like Perry, it's all good?

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:14 pm to
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Over/under on how many posts until someone else who can't read says this is going through the DA's office: 6


You even said the complaint was filed with the Travis County DA's office. Were all asking why it even began there. Certainly brings up it's legitimacy.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 11:18 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:16 pm to
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It's not.

the initial complaint was sent there. why was that complaint not sent to a state policing agency?

does TX have no state policing agencies like the LA Attorney General's Office?

over here, the complaint would almost assuredly be handled by the state Aty General
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:17 pm to
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You even said the complaint was filed with the Travis County DA's office.
Yes, I did. Do you know the difference between the word "is" and the word "was"? Think real hard now.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:19 pm to
Sigh.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:22 pm to
This happened because of Big Government.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62901 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:22 pm to
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Over/under on how many posts until someone else who can't read says this is going through the DA's office: 6


It's funny, because it is you not comprehending what is being said. This didn't go from a liberal watchdog group to a judge. The DA's office initiated it, and then passed it on. It would have stopped with a liberal watchdog group if it wasn't the fat drunk DA being called to resign.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 11:23 pm to
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i don't think this gives her enough, but the DEMs are going to try to sell the GOP as the party of corruption


Looks like the Rick Perry is doing a bang up sales job all by himself!
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