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Gerrymandering, For or Against?

Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted by arp0925
Member since Nov 2016
1323 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:22 pm
Whats your opinion on Gerrymandering? Liked John Oliver's episode on it.

Gerrymandering: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34080 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:27 pm to
Who was the guy that said elections have consequences? Boasted about it. Just cant remember his name.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:32 pm to
Dilligaf
Posted by Pbhog
Pine bluff, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2015
3460 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:36 pm to
Republicans have re shaped districts to limit the poor and minority vote. Of course I'm against it
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8747 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:39 pm to
I'm for it if it benefits Republicans
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:50 pm to
Sorry, liberals, packing racial minorities into disfigured districts backfired. You made the rules.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:53 pm to
Extremely against it. It must be nice knowing however shitty you are at your job it's never in jeopardy.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21153 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

Sorry, liberals, packing racial minorities into disfigured districts backfired. You made the rules.



This. Their demands for "opportunity districts where they wouldn't have to deal with moderate-conservative white voters helped create more solidly red districts and even weakened some traditionally Democrat districts.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:01 am to
Theoretically, it's obviously wrong. But there are certainly practical reasons to justify gerrymandering. The country has many far greater problems than gerrymandering.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:12 am to
Mark my words, once single-member districts (versus at-large voting) in municipalities starts backfiring, liberals will instantly disavow their decades-long fight to get to that point as white racism that must be stopped.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:25 am to
quote:

Republicans have re shaped districts to limit the poor and minority vote. Of course I'm against it


Lol. Both sides use it to benefit themselves and exploit voters. You know that though.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:53 am to
Does it benefit me? Either for or against, depending
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6288 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:20 am to
It's un-american. The actual people don't get to pick their politicians, the politicians pick their electorate.

People get caught up in the my side vs their side and we all lose because politicians are not beholden to any of us.

Politicians are puppet masters pulling strings. They get people to vote against their own interests on both sides. The people need to better leverage their votes. The down ballot voting and identity politics have allowed our politicians to become our overlords.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 1:21 am to
Term limits are a bigger issue. There should be no politicians whose career job is to stay in Washington as a senator or house member. It's even worse in the Supreme court where they are there for life.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25343 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:08 am to
Louisiana's entire southeastern district lines are fricked beyond belief just so the 2nd can be the VRA mandated majority Democrat district. Hopefully it follows more Parish or geographic boundaries in the future.

That kind of majority-minority mandate killed moderate Democrats and blue dogs. It created districts where any radical nutcase can win, then it stole Democrats from the surrounding republican districts, making them even more right wing.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 2:11 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42585 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:15 am to
quote:

Hopefully it follows more Parish or geographic boundaries in the future.

This - there should be no more than 6 boundary definitions for any district. Use County/Parish boundaries, rivers/streams, US/State highways, School district boundaries, and/or one survey line.

These gerrymandered districts are what gives the DEMs all those retarded blacks in congress like Waters, Lee, Johnson, etc. They do more to degrade the image of black 'success' than anything else.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:28 am to
Maxine Waters.




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Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:27 am to
It shouldn't happen but there is no way to stop it. Both sides do it...the democrats are just on the losing end of it at the moment. Demographics in every stats suggests that this won't be the case for much longer.


It is utterly ridiculous BUT the part where the interstate tied together two predominantly Latino districts sandwiching a predominantly black district is WHY it will never end. A latino candidate would simply tell the latino's in the district that the district was being re-drawn to eliminate latino voices and they would be out in force to stop it.

What is some true bullshite, and it is tied to the issue, is the fact that in almost every election democrats get more votes than their opposition BUT they lose the election. Again, it is working against democrats at the moment and the GOP has been a genius on maintaining that situation BUT it has never lasted in any nation for long that a minority ruled over a majority....and Republicans are quickly becoming a distinct minority. When you add in the fact that there are apparently 3 very distinct GOP bases today...Libertarian, moderate and white nationalists and almost no conservatives simply based on conservative principals the GOP is, despite its current numbers, in real trouble.

I think what we see going forward is several parties emerging...the Democrats are done and the GOP is so splintered it isn't viable.....
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59843 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:30 am to
Districts shouldn't have anything but whole county/parrish boundaries.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36021 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:32 am to
Gerrymandering and not using geography to draw district lines has done more to divide groups into two distinct sides with hard core representatives than anything.

These rep. are less likely to understand the other side and to come together in the middle on issues.
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