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re: Georgia - Biden +1 over Trump, DeSantis +3 over Biden
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:25 am to aggressor
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:25 am to aggressor
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Trump isn't running 3rd Party because he would lose HUGE if he did AND get Biden re-elected.
Trump would absolutely run 3rd party just to be in the limelight while sticking it to the Republican Party. It's not like history has been unkind to Perot.
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:29 am to GumboPot
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20% of MAGA just won't vote.
Totally not a cult
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:33 am to rmnldr
I don't get all this bullshite posting poll results. Polls mean nothing. If the US Presidential election can be stolen , and the media can lie and get pulitzers for it without pushback, then what value to someone's daily life is a freaking poll.
Eradicate communism. (public service announcement)
Eradicate communism. (public service announcement)
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:45 am to BrainKellyRespecter
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Once the general public gets acquainted with Meatball Rob’s high pitched whiny voice you’re going to see those numbers drop like a ton of bricks.
that you typed this and think you should be taken seriously shows just how imbecilic you are. come on, be better.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:01 am to rmnldr
Oh Dear Lord. Another Public Opinion Strategies Poll. They are guns for hire, its on their about page. And since you know Trump or Biden didnt hire them, DeSantis did
However, he worst take for you from this is, that in a paid for poll, all results are well within the margin of error. And since GA seems to hate Trump enough to toss an election to ole Joe, DeSantis cant get any separation, in his own poll
Trump 43, DeSantis 45
Biden 42, 44
However, he worst take for you from this is, that in a paid for poll, all results are well within the margin of error. And since GA seems to hate Trump enough to toss an election to ole Joe, DeSantis cant get any separation, in his own poll
Trump 43, DeSantis 45
Biden 42, 44
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:02 am to TNoon
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I call bs
Trump's not winning GA in a General Election. The majority of the state hates him. The people who decide elections in Atlanta and the Atlanta suburbs hate him and are tired of his shite.
They rejected him in 2020, when he intervened during the runoffs they rejected the Republican Senators, they rejected his pick (Perdue) in the Gubernatorial Primary, and they rejected Herschel Walker. Meanwhile, the other 8 state-wide Republicans all won in GA in 2022.
You could argue that the suburban voters in GA rejected him in 2016 as well. Trump underperformed Johnny Isakson by 77,372 votes in just the 4 big ATL-area counties (Cobb, DeKalb, Fulton, Gwinnett). Trump ran against the most-hated Democrat in history in 2016 and he got under 51% (50.8%) of the vote.
The people who voted for those state-wide Republicans but not Herschel Walker are never going to vote for him. Unfortunately for Trump, those are the people who decide elections in the state.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:02 am to rmnldr
There was another Georgia poll done earlier in May with similar numbers.
GA 2024 Poll
DeSantis is beating Biden by 5.
Trump is losing to Biden by 1.
GA 2024 Poll
DeSantis is beating Biden by 5.
Trump is losing to Biden by 1.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:09 am to frogtown
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There was another Georgia poll done earlier in May with similar numbers.
GA 2024 Poll
DeSantis is beating Biden by 5.
Trump is losing to Biden by 1.
Another important factor is Brian Kemp. He is the most popular politician in GA. His latest approval rating has him at 60% and he defeated Abrams by nearly 300K votes last November. I don't see any way that he goes out of his way to help a guy who has repeatedly lied about him, called him a traitor, and said that a woke Democrat would make a better Governor. I can absolutely see Kemp going around the state helping DeSantis if he is the nominee.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:11 am to rmnldr
Imagine a Republican losing GA. Would never happ……….
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:13 am to rmnldr
Well may as well give it up, 1 point down in a poll 18 months out
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:13 am to RammerJammer91
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Another important factor is Brian Kemp. He is the most popular politician in GA. His latest approval rating has him at 60% and he defeated Abrams by nearly 300K votes last November.
It's a shame that such a popular guy in a state couldn't hold any sway on getting his party over the hump in Senate elections.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:14 am to GumboPot
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As proven by a small PBT poll a month or so ago 20% of MAGA just won't vote.
And that is why the sycophants are nothing more than celebrity cheerleaders.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:18 am to RobbBobb
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Oh Dear Lord. Another Public Opinion Strategies Poll. They are guns for hire, its on their about page.
You sycophants gush over a freaking big van caravan poll that showed Trump up, yet any poll that shows Trump is down you say "rigged".
I literally said this yesterday, you sycophants are a joke. You are so hypocritical and can't intelligently explain why poll A is good, yet poll B is bad, even when its the same poll.
Maybe, we should all acknowledge that any poll out right now, is complete horseshite and nothing more than confirmation bias? But no, YOU won't do that because you have other polls you want to use that makes your guy look good. So you will, stupidly, pick and choose which polls to believe and look like a horse's arse trying to explain to us why other polls are bad.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:23 am to Y.A. Tittle
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t's a shame that such a popular guy in a state couldn't hold any sway on getting his party over the hump in Senate elections.
Blame 2020 on Trump.
Blame 2022 on Trump.
It is pretty simple.
How do you endorse a guy that held a loaded gun to his ex wife's head?
BTW, Kemp actually did a lot to help get Walker elected. He cut commercials for him and lent him his "get out the vote" team.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 9:27 am
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:24 am to BugAC
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I literally said this yesterday, you sycophants are a joke. You are so hypocritical and can't intelligently explain why poll A is good, yet poll B is bad, even when its the same poll.
The poll they are touting nationally with trump up 40 when broken down:
Has trump winning Hawaii(!!) by a lot
Has him getting 62% of the hispanic vote
Has him getting 30%+ of the black vote
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:25 am to rhar61
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Well may as well give it up, 1 point down in a poll 18 months out
I bet you upvote and comment how great polls are when Jj or jb are posting them.
Funny how that works.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:26 am to BugAC
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You are so hypocritical and can't intelligently explain why poll A is good, yet poll B is bad,
Well, then I'll let Public Opinion Strategies tell you about themselves. I wont add a single word
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Our political client base includes nine U.S. Senators, five Governors, over 40 Members of Congress, and numerous state legislative caucuses.
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The firm has been uniquely successful in political campaigns, we have helped elect:
23 new U.S. Senators and worked with 11 other senators on their winning re-election campaign(s), polling for a total of 35 different U.S. Senators.
25 new governors and, overall, worked with 35 different governors, including handling the re-election campaigns of ten incumbent governors who hired the firm after first being elected governor.
Now you tell me, is this a general polling company, or a client based company?
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:26 am to Y.A. Tittle
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It's a shame that such a popular guy in a state couldn't hold any sway on getting his party over the hump in Senate elections.
Kemp didn't hand-pick Walker. Trump did.
Kemp helped 7 other state-wide Republicans over the finish line, every incumbent Congressional Republican won, and helped Republicans in the State Legislature maintain a majority despite millions coming in from California and New York to try and flip control to the Dems. Kemp even helped Trump's LG pick, Burt Jones, over the finish line. Jones was a shite candidate who spent 2021 parroting the Wood/Powell/Trump/Rudy nonsense about satellites from outer space controlling Dominion machines, or whatever the frick that nonsense was. Kemp and his people pulled Jones aside behind the scenes and told him to cut that shite out. Although Jones won, he performed the worst of all state-wide R's who won.
Trump tried to help flip the Gubernatorial seat to the Dems. He had David Perdue try to take out Kemp in the Primary and Perdue would've lost to Abrams if he had gotten the nomination.
If Trump had his way, Republicans would've lost 4 of the state-wide races. Jody Hice (SOS) and Perdue (GOV) would've lost had they gotten the nomination and without Kemp pulling Jones aside behind the scenes, Jones would've lost as well.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:27 am to Y.A. Tittle
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It's a shame that such a popular guy in a state couldn't hold any sway on getting his party over the hump in Senate elections.
GOP ran a horrible candidate in Walker. Walker come off as a) stupid and b) full of contradictions. I was pushing for him, but in the GOP, you have to bring someone better than Walker to win. Same thing with Oz. Celebrity candidates, for the most part, are terrible at messaging.
If you want to beat the Democrat machine, you put up a candidate that is 100% unabashedly conservative, pro-life, and doesnt' shy away from it. These milquetoast "republicans" that share many views with Democrats and don't take a hard line on conservative issues are easily defeated. Conservatives/Republicans don't want weak candidates. Walker and Oz were very weak.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:28 am to Y.A. Tittle
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It's a shame that such a popular guy in a state couldn't hold any sway on getting his party over the hump in Senate elections.
Who tried to destroy Kemp for no reason, other than that Kemp happened to be governor when Trump lost GA?
By the way, Trump losing GA and AZ is a huge warning sign about NC and TX. Good chance that those states flip if Trump is nominated again.
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