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Gay male couples face more challenges, higher costs to start a family
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:28 am
something tells me we will end up paying for this
Gay male couples face more challenges, higher costs to start a family
Almost two-thirds, 63%, of LGBTQ+ people plan to use assisted reproductive technology, foster care, or adoption to become parents, according to a survey by Family Equality.
Gay male couples typically face a more expensive journey, as surrogacy or adoption are their primary choices.
While more employers are offering fertility benefits, many of these packages are limited when it comes to covering surrogacy.
Bret Shuford and Stephen Hanna knew from early on in their relationship they wanted to raise a child together. But the married couple didn't think a biological child was a possibility.
As freelancers in the creative arts, income isn't always steady for Shuford and Hanna, even when working on Broadway. The Houston-based couple, known as the "Broadway Husbands," thought having a child with a donor egg and gestational carrier "seemed like it was something that was only available to people who were very wealthy," said Shuford, 44.
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Gay male couples face more challenges, higher costs to start a family
Almost two-thirds, 63%, of LGBTQ+ people plan to use assisted reproductive technology, foster care, or adoption to become parents, according to a survey by Family Equality.
Gay male couples typically face a more expensive journey, as surrogacy or adoption are their primary choices.
While more employers are offering fertility benefits, many of these packages are limited when it comes to covering surrogacy.
Bret Shuford and Stephen Hanna knew from early on in their relationship they wanted to raise a child together. But the married couple didn't think a biological child was a possibility.
As freelancers in the creative arts, income isn't always steady for Shuford and Hanna, even when working on Broadway. The Houston-based couple, known as the "Broadway Husbands," thought having a child with a donor egg and gestational carrier "seemed like it was something that was only available to people who were very wealthy," said Shuford, 44.
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:30 am to djmed
So they create problems for themselves and demand that society solve them.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:33 am to djmed
quote:For all practical purposes, a gay couple is basically same same as any other couple where both partners are infertile. I see no reason that they should pay more to "start a family" versus any other infertile couple, but I also see no reason that they should pay less or that taxpayers should cover the difference for them.
Gay male couples face more challenges, higher costs to start a family ... something tells me we will end up paying for this
Insurance? Different question.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:35 am to djmed
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As freelancers in the creative arts, income isn't always steady for Shuford and Hanna, even when working on Broadway
These people choose a lifestyle and expect the State to fill in what they cannot cover.
frick them.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:37 am to djmed
Easy. Why don't they befriend a lesbo couple and cum in each of the girls and boom both couples can keep 1 kid each.
Gays always making it harder than it needs to be
Gays always making it harder than it needs to be
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:37 am to djmed
Good grief.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:38 am to AggieHank86
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a gay couple is basically same same as any other couple where both partners are infertile
Yea, I mean, this is totally the same thing.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:39 am to djmed
How exactly do they expect to have kids???? And why do they want them???? So they can push their mental illness on malleable minds that can't buy beer or smoke but can have irreversible surgeries that cause life long dependence on hormone injections to be who their sick parents told them to be??? Mental illness is all it is.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:42 am to djmed
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higher costs to start a family
If "Duh" was an Olympic sport, this group would represent legless decathletes.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:45 am to djmed
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Gay male couples face more challenges, higher costs to start a family
Good. They should. Two men can't conceive a child on their own. This isn't rocket science.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:46 am to AggieHank86
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For all practical purposes, a gay couple is basically same same as any other couple where both partners are infertile. I see no reason that they should pay more to "start a family" versus any other infertile couple, but I also see no reason that they should pay less or that taxpayers should cover the difference for them.
I would generally agree. However, with a gay couple you have 2 female tendencies that are different than male/female couples in terms of finances.
I've been friends with a lot of gay males who had a long term partner. They made better money than me. But they were always having financial issues. They just said, 'Zach I'm just don't handle money well.'
Most housewives in a hetero couple have the same issue. The husband has to exert some control over female spending habits.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:52 am to djmed
hear me out
instead of finding ways to remove these hurdles
we increase the obstacles ten-fold
instead of finding ways to remove these hurdles
we increase the obstacles ten-fold
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:00 pm to AggieHank86
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For all practical purposes, a gay couple is basically same same as any other couple where both partners are infertile. I see no reason that they should pay more to "start a family" versus any other infertile couple, but I also see no reason that they should pay less or that taxpayers should cover the difference for them.
How about they just stick with adoption? Does my insurance pay for girlfriends infertility or just my wife’s? Are you really insinuating that insurance should pay the medical expenses for the surrogate of a gay male couple?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:02 pm to Johnpettigrew
quote:Depends upon the contractual language of the insurance policy that they choose to purchase. If it is covered by the policy for which they paid good money, yes. It is a matter of private contract. If the insurance company did not want to assume that risk, they did not have to sell that policy.
How about they just stick with adoption? Does my insurance pay for girlfriends infertility or just my wife’s? Are you really insinuating that insurance should pay the medical expenses for the surrogate of a gay male couple?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:02 pm to Pettifogger
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we increase the obstacles ten-fold
well said
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:07 pm to djmed
Fricking tired of this gaslighting. At least accept the fact that your relationship is not natural for procreation. That is their decision, so stop asking for the same equivalent needs as people that it is natural for.
We really need to do a better job at keeping tabs on how the goal posts move, as eventually it will just start covering garbage like this. "Just want to get married" my pale arse.
We really need to do a better job at keeping tabs on how the goal posts move, as eventually it will just start covering garbage like this. "Just want to get married" my pale arse.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:10 pm to rtiger
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And why do they want them????
They try to push any envelope are far as they can, and then when it doesn't go their way, they bitch publicly about it. They think they are owed something when in reality they are owed nothing.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:13 pm to Pettifogger
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instead of finding ways to remove these hurdles we increase the obstacles ten-fold
I’m becoming an acolyte.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:14 pm to tiger789
Our society is a joke
We can't debate whether it's evil for gay men to unnaturally create children and bring them into an unnatural household, all via the exploitation of poor women
We'll just debate whether it's wrong that gay men have to pay out of pocket for it
We can't debate whether it's evil for gay men to unnaturally create children and bring them into an unnatural household, all via the exploitation of poor women
We'll just debate whether it's wrong that gay men have to pay out of pocket for it
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