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FTC just announces facially unconstitutional action

Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98692 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:14 pm
Declares non-competition clauses/agreements illegal. As of right now, the government has just impaired millions of contracts, not even as the result of a fricking law passed by Congress.

Unconstitutional on its face.

Expect an injunction very soon.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26194 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:17 pm to
The overreaching administrative state marches on.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8311 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:25 pm to
How are private equity groups going to structure their deals with owners now? Or any buyouts for that matter.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48284 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Declares non-competition clauses/agreements illegal. As of right now, the government has just impaired millions of contracts, not even as the result of a fricking law passed by Congress.


This is a state law issue. The states will just ignore this silliness.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47602 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Declares non-competition clauses/agreements illegal.


Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15598 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:29 pm to
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Unconstitutional on its face.

I missed the part where this is in the Constitution.
Lawsuits will have to be filed for an injunction, right?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80062 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

This is a state law issue. The states will just ignore this silliness.


The state I live in (Washington) made non-compete clauses illegal in 2023 if the compensation of the individual involved is less than $100,000/year.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118755 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

Declares non-competition clauses/agreements illegal.


So now I can moonlight doing the same service with personal customers that I provide my employer with no consequences?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48284 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

The state I live in (Washington) made non-compete clauses illegal in 2023 if the compensation of the individual involved is less than $100,000/year.


I have no problem with that. At all. The issue is the over reach of a federal agency. They don’t have that power.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47602 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

How are private equity groups going to structure their deals with owners now? Or any buyouts for that matter.


quote:

The final rule does not apply to non-competes entered into by a person pursuant to a bona fide sale of a business entity

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118755 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

compensation of the individual involved is less than $100,000/year.


So it really impacts very few people.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33185 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:38 pm to
I've refused every no-compete clause shoved in my face since 2005.
However,
The pussies that signed em should be forced to live by them, just like all you student-loan-ridden-tranny-studies-degree-genderfroot-grads.

FTC,


Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28333 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

I have no problem with that. At all. The issue is the over reach of a federal agency. They don’t have that power.


This is literally nothing more than an election year campaign ploy. The FTC knows they don't have this power and it will be struck down by the courts. They don't care. They just want to create the optic of the "bad red states", who will challenge the "law" as anti-employee and pro corporation.

I guess the good news is the USSC can use this to further erode the "lawmaking" ability of these government bureaucracies. The executive branch got a taste during 2020-2021 of what could be when allowed to make "laws" without actually going to the legislative process, which is the foundation of our system of government, and they want to keep testing the boundaries to see how much power they can actually get away with.

And I say this as someone who believes anti-compete clauses should be significantly restricted.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27458 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:20 pm to
Sure, why not? Sounds like you already are.
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3269 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Unconstitutional on its face.


quote:

I missed the part where this is in the Constitution.


It's in Article I. Congress makes the laws. Not the FTC.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8596 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:34 pm to
We can not get CHEVRON over-turned soon enough.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12480 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

How are private equity groups going to structure their deals with owners now? Or any buyouts for that matter.

The same way they do in states that don't allow them or they're largely unenforceable. Work it into the economics of the sale price or en employment contract with early term penalties.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67070 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:42 pm to
I have a few takes on this:
1. This is a clear overreach of the FTC’s authority. With that said, it could be argued that non-compete clauses which extend across state lines could be interpreted as impediments to interstate commerce. In which case, Congress could potentially legislate rules governing them.

2. The enforceability of a non-compete clause which is signed by an employee as a condition of employment should be zero, but this should be regulated at the state level.

3. Business owners should be allowed to negotiate enforceable non-compete clauses in agreements to sell land or businesses.

4. Businesses should be permitted to enforce contracts which bar former employees from soliciting clients with whom they worked at said business, but only for a designated time period. Personally, I would say no longer than 2 years, but I would leave it up to states to decide that.

5. Such a ban should not include agreements reached via collective bargaining.

6. This is nothing but a campaign hail mary to try and give Biden some pro-workers bulletin board material.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26194 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 4:46 pm to
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With that said, it could be argued that non-compete clauses which extend across state lines could be interpreted as impediments to interstate commerce.

"Everything you can possibly imagine is interstate commerce."

--the United States Supreme Court, approx. 1930-1980
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