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Founder of Fusion GPS/Pissgate dossier to plead FIF @ Senate hearing Wed

Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:25 am
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:25 am
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Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS, the firm that commissioned the Trump dossier, will plead the Fifth at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing scheduled for Wednesday, his lawyers say. Simpson, a former Wall Street Journal reporter, was subpoenaed by the committee on Friday after his lawyers said that he would be out of the country on vacation at the time of the hearing, which will explore shortcomings in the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, the chairman of the committee, has been interested in speaking to Simpson about Fusion GPS’s role in two matters: the salacious and uncorroborated Trump dossier, and a lobbying campaign carried out last year against the Magnitsky Act, a law that places sanctions against Russian human rights abusers.


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Fusion GPS was hired last June by a supporter of Hillary Clinton’s to investigate Trump’s dealings in Russia. The firm then hired former British spy Christopher Steele to conduct the research. Simpson was initially scheduled to testify on Wednesday alongside Donald Trump Jr. and Paul Manafort, but the latter two reached a deal with the committee to avoid appearing in public. Instead, they will talk to the committee in a closed session.





Recon why this ole baw is doing this?

What's he hiding Dems? Lets hear it.
Posted by Deuces
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:27 am to
In other news, Donald Trump was seen this morning with Russian salad dressing. I'm Wolf Blitzer.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:28 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:28 am to
Why didn't a want post this?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:29 am to
Memo to the retards at the DOJ, this probably means said individual IS HIDING SOMETHING ILLEGAL.


Hint




Hint




Hint
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:30 am to
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Why didn't a want post this?


He only posts at his government job Monday thru Friday
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:31 am to
You have a massive effort to hang Trump while protecting KNEE deep politicians on both sides.

Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:33 am to
Put him under oath and make him do it.

Mueller will ignore this, of course.
Posted by mmcgrath
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:43 am to
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What's he hiding Dems? Lets hear it.
Fusion GPS started only 6 years ago and has been involved in a lot of lawsuits. There were a lot of legal issues surrounding their efforts with the Russian lawyer in opposition to the Magnitsky Act.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:47 am to
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Fusion GPS was hired last June by a supporter of Hillary Clinton’s to investigate Trump’s dealings in Russia. The firm then hired former British spy Christopher Steele to conduct the research.

i have sort of a legal-philosophical question

the regs that keep being brought up against Trump related to foreign donations to campaigns involve an allegation that information collected by a foreign entity/person cannot be given to/used by a Presidential campaign. on a conceptual level, how much different is hiring a foreign national to do the collection? now in this specific instance you'd have to prove a direct relation b/w the HRC campaign and these groups, and i get that, but i'm just speaking conceptually

assuming people associated with Trump's campaign broke FEC laws when they got information from Russians and assuming that HRCs campaign can be linked to the creation of this dossier, what's the real difference in the 2 scenarios?

are liberals trying to say that it's illegal if a campaign receives information that was already collected by a foreign actor, but it's not illegal if we use foreign actors to then acquire information?
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 10:48 am
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:48 am to
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There were a lot of legal issues surrounding their efforts with the Russian lawyer in opposition to the Magnitsky Act.



In which Dems and HRC were involved with
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35364 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:40 am to
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assuming people associated with Trump's campaign broke FEC laws when they got information from Russians and assuming that HRCs campaign can be linked to the creation of this dossier, what's the real difference in the 2 scenarios?
Good question.

The main difference is that Steele provided a service for compensation. You can buy t-shirts, hire artists, etc for a campaign as long as you are paying for that service or product and it does not involve any management or decision making in a campaign.

The dossier itself can be used by the Clinton campaign (doesn't look like it was) but Steele can't provide it for free or get involved in any meetings with management.

In the case of the Russia meeting at Trump Tower, there was clear discussions with management and documents were "left behind".
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:43 am to
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There were a lot of legal issues surrounding their efforts with the Russian lawyer in opposition to the Magnitsky Act.



In which Dems and HRC were involved with
The Obama administration opposed it during their "reset" efforts but eventually signed it and started prosecuting people which led to Fusion GPS getting hired by the Russians.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:45 am to
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The main difference is that Steele provided a service for compensation. You can buy t-shirts, hire artists, etc for a campaign as long as you are paying for that service or product and it does not involve any management or decision making in a campaign.

but this raises more issues

so Trump's campaign would have been OK had they paid the agents for the hacked data?

isn't the REAL issue whether Trump promised some sort of compensation for this exchange? that's what we really fear, right? if all Trump's people did was receive the information for nothing in exchange, this is, at best, a small FEC violation and not anywhere near the conspiracy (all the way up to treason, as many have suggested) that's been created
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:48 am to
What happens if Manafort and Jared plead da fif? They are further tried in the media as KGB agents.

This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:53 am to
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so Trump's campaign would have been OK had they paid the agents for the hacked data?
It probably frees them up from the election law violation and throws them into a co-conspirator on the hacking. Depends on what was in the papers the left behind.

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isn't the REAL issue whether Trump promised some sort of compensation for this exchange? that's what we really fear, right? if all Trump's people did was receive the information for nothing in exchange, this is, at best, a small FEC violation and not anywhere near the conspiracy (all the way up to treason, as many have suggested) that's been created
Coordinating with a foreign national in a us election is a felony, not some small civil violation. It's not the same as treason, but it is serious enough by itself.
Posted by gthog61
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:19 pm to
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Coordinating with a foreign national in a us election is a felony, not some small civil violation. It's not the same as treason, but it is serious enough by itself.



and STILL no fricking evidence whatsoever
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35364 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:24 pm to
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and STILL no fricking evidence whatsoever
We have evidence of the senior leaders of the Trump campaign in a meeting with a foreign national where the intention was to receive information to help their campaign.

We also know that the meeting was not disclosed, then denied, then lied about. That is evidence as well.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:29 pm to
It's going to be hilarious when this turns up nothing and you wasted months of your life obsessing over something that doesn't affect your every day life either way.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS, the firm that commissioned the Trump dossier




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