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Florida could pave new changes in 'stand your ground' laws

Posted on 5/28/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 3:48 pm
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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Lucy McBath is afraid many more people will die if Florida Gov. Rick Scott signs a bill making it harder to prosecute when people claim they commit violence in self-defense.

She already lost her son, an unarmed black teenager, when a white man angry over loud music and claiming self-defense fired 10 times at an SUV filled with teenagers.


....AND OF COURSE....opponents have to bring up their favorite didndu.

quote:

The 2012 killing of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman opened a debate about the limits of self-defense, and it hasn't let up since Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder after jurors received instructions on Florida's "stand your ground" law.


Florida could pave new changes in 'stand your ground' laws
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32543 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 3:51 pm to
Maybe didndus should just not put themselves in a situation where someone feels threatened by them.

My dad always told me to be aware of my surroundings and to expect bad things to happen when in bad places doing bad stuff.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 3:52 pm to
Hell ... half the reason to have a castle doctrine is because bad guys aren't sure if the crazy old white man is packing and itching to shoot some asshat or not.

I honestly cannot wait for the day when video catches some thug sneaking up behind someone to play the knockout game and some old white man wheels around, James Bond style, and busts a cap in said thug's guy ... hell, five or six caps, right when said thug is winding up.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 3:53 pm to
Zimmerman was only prosecuted because agitators threatened Rodney King level of violence and destruction.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:03 pm to
Start a fight

Get your arse whipped

Pull your gun and blow away the guy that whipped your arse

Now that's Republican!
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37527 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:06 pm to
Inner city daily gun violence

Now that's Democrat!
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:41 pm to
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Maybe didndus should just not put themselves in a situation where someone feels threatened by them


Old white Republicans feel threatened by the color if their skin.. not their actions.

The real problem in this country is that the Republican party is full of pussies
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 5:46 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:43 pm to
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claiming self-defense fired 10 times at an SUV filled with teenagers.


I just want to say, if you fire your gun 10 times then it isn't for self defense. If you legitimately think someone is going to kill you, you have every right to defend yourself. And that includes shooting them. But 10 times? No, you just wanted to kill some people.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:48 pm to
Here here
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

The real problem in this country is that the Republican party is full of pussies

Yeah that need safe spaces.

If a conservative stomped their foot at you on the street you would break an arm trying to get out of that Obama shirt and hide.

Unless it was about 6 on 1 then you would be a badass.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73446 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:08 pm to
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shite a Congressman just did what you accuse Trayvon of having done, would it be cool if a reporter blew Gianforte's head off?
He slammed his head into a sidewalk?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:12 pm to
He should have been prosecuted no doubt. But prosecuted under a manslaughter charge. The protest and MSM coverage seemed to push the State to a murder charge.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

Maybe didndus should just not put themselves in a situation where someone feels threatened by them.

My dad always told me to be aware of my surroundings and to expect bad things to happen when in bad places doing bad stuff.


gotta keep them ****s in their place, don't we chappy? ... kid's walking home in his neighborhood not bothering anyone and some cop-wannabe decides to frick with him, gets his arse kicked, & pulls a gun and shoots him ...

yep, got to keep them ****s in their place ...

making america great again, amirite?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73446 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:24 pm to
Such a racist country the white Hispanic walked in a clear cut murder.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

Don't act like you and yours didn't don your hoods and do a little cross burning.

Make up your feeble liberal mind.

Are we Klan or are we Nazis?
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 7:00 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36050 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:56 pm to
This law will effectively require a trial before a trial for anyone who invokes self defense, most of whom will be the very kind of people the OP lashes out against.

The end result of this will be the further clogging of the Florida judicial system, as you will essentially have two trials, which means prosecutors will have less time to deal with other cases involving violent crimes where self defense isn't at issue.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

Oh, so you haven't been racist in this thread?

No.

However let me be very clear. If you have perceived my comments as racist. I do not give a rat's arse.

You are a member of the Perpetual Victims Club. Being tagged racist, Homophobe, Islamophobe etc. by your ilk is actually a badge of honor.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35038 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

lost her son, an unarmed black teenager, when a white man


Why does race matter in this story?

Hint. It doesn't.

Just race baiting and trying to make it an "us vs them" argument. Media, you're shtick is old.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71104 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

This law will effectively require a trial before a trial for anyone who invokes self defense, most of whom will be the very kind of people the OP lashes out against.

The end result of this will be the further clogging of the Florida judicial system, as you will essentially have two trials, which means prosecutors will have less time to deal with other cases involving violent crimes where self defense isn't at issue.


Yep. Some "dindu" mugs a couple of drunk tourists who stumble through the wrong hood. Kills them, they can't talk...then says "they came at me, bro".

2 against 1, they have a high BAC, drunks can be aggressive...you have a mess on your hands.

Unless you have it so an affirmative defense shifts the burden of proof in favor of the prosecution.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35038 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 7:03 pm to
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And that includes shooting them. But 10 times? No, you just wanted to kill some people.


Smdh. You're taught to shoot until the threat is eliminated. Empty out your magazine.

And you're an aggie? Man. Talk about downhill in the last 50 years.
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