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re: FISA IG report IN-GAME thread (JUST RELEASED)

Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:47 pm to
Wow...just heard Rush say that OAN is reporting that LINDSEY GRAHAM (along with McCain) were involved in Ukrainian dirty money. That is BIG! As Graham is the supposed point of the Senate Investigatory spear.

Hannity will be on this. Would hate to be Graham if this is true.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:49 pm to
The OIG recommends criminal referrals. So far Comey got one last time and Barr refused.

Seriously did I miss the page of criminal referrals as the pages in the 400's where it would be are having trouble loading.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:49 pm to
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thats up to Durham and Barr. the IG does not indict people



And what do we hope that they will do?

What's a realistic "win" for the good guys at this point.

Because we were all led to believe that Hillary would be arrested.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:50 pm to
Agree and Barr is not going to do jack about anything. Look at who these scumbags are and where they came from. Barr was a cover up guy for the corrupt Bush Mafia - Daddy Bush running CIA wacked JFK.
System is BEYOND corrupt, trillions and trillions are missing from the Pentagon and from the bailouts to the billionaires.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:50 pm to
Yes we have been talking about this for a couple of days. There is video of Graham and McCain getting medals from the corrupt Ukraine President. See Conservative Treehouse.
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:50 pm to
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So what exactly is being released that we didn’t seemingly know? What is the next step? Are there any civil or criminal issues that need to be handled by a real court not the elected body playing court?
Durham is running a criminal investigation and has a grand jury in place. The IG report is the sugar coated version but apparently lays out some serious "mistakes" which either proves rampant incompetence or BIAS.

They can all say I did my job regardless of political affiliations and the IG has take them at their word.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:52 pm to
Oh and Hannity will be on this and have on Graham so Graham can BS. And then they will all talk about their books they wrote and Q people will say wait two more years they have it all. It is all quite sad.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Hannity will be on this and have on Graham so Graham can BS.


"my sources say it will shock the conscience of the nation"

Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:54 pm to
All true but any grand jury would be done and over with by now. And so far all's we heard was a list of unknown people and maybe Kleinsmith.
Posted by dafif
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:55 pm to
Somehow, I feel if this were republicans doing this, more stuff would hit the fan...people arrested, tried, convicted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Somehow, I feel if this were republicans doing this, more stuff would hit the fan...people arrested, tried, convicted.


oh yeah, 100%
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 12:57 pm to
Barr and Durham are saying the right things. We'll see if they deliver on action.

fricking disgusting what I'm reading (even though we literally knew all of this already) and even worse that the media and left will be able to dismiss as a nothing burger.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:00 pm to
well we know one thing today. the FISA applications against Carter Page were 100% bullshite and built on lies, misinformation, and the Steele Report (and lying and giving misinformation about Steele and the origin of the report)

if you want to read a scary story about the police state, read the Carter Page section of this report
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147987 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:02 pm to
Why do you think Graham sucked up to Trump supporters and made sure he was Chairman?



LINK

Video of McCain & Graham getting medals from the corrupt Ukraine President

The deep state gonna protect the deep state; they live off of special interests ain't no one stopping their gravy trains.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:04 pm to
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quote:

On or about August 17, 2016, in response to the Crossfire Hurricane team's prior Carter Page name trace request, the Crossfire Hurricane team received a memorandum from another U.S. government agency detailing its prior interactions with Page, including that Page had been approved as an "operational contact" for the other agency from 2008 to 2013. 489 The memorandum also detailed the information that Page had provided to the other agency concerning his prior contacts with certain Russian intelligence officers. As detailed in Chapters Five and Eight, the Crossfire Hurricane team did not accurately describe to OI the nature and extent of the information that the FBI received from the other agency, which we found was highly relevant to an evaluation of the FISA request.

Additionally, in August 2016, Page made statements to an FBI CHS that, if true, were in tension with the reporting the FBI received subsequently from Steele, alleging that Page was being used as an intermediary by Manafort to conspire with Russia. The FBI did not inform OI of Page's statements before any of the four FISA applications were filed, and did not inform OI of the CHS operation until June 2017, shortly before filing the last FISA application.


so they had information from the NSA or CIA that Page was working with them


In another section (posted earlier in the thread) it states that the CIA sent word to those running Crossfore Hurricane that Page's Russian contacts were because Page has worked with the CIA. Not only did they not take that into account in their investigation, they did not list it when applying for FISA.

How is that anything other than intentional?
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
139889 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:07 pm to
So what exactly is being released that we didn’t seemingly know? What is the next step? Are there any civil or criminal issues that need to be handled by a real court not the elected body playing court

Asking again since well I’m a dummy today
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:07 pm to
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The pretentious "dance" and Kabuki Theater will continue to the point of nausea.

And after that, it will continue to the point of fatigued disinterest and apathy.
At that point, it slides down the memory hole and the swamp reemerges with renewed confidence knowing that nothing that rises to this level of threat to them will ever happen again.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11848 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:08 pm to
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the FISA applications against Carter Page were 100% bullshite and built on lies, misinformation, and the Steele Report (and lying and giving misinformation about Steele and the origin of the report)

Yet somehow there's no bias. Which frankly might be worse because that means this is normal behavior in our FBI.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425279 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:08 pm to
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In another section (posted earlier in the thread) it states that the CIA sent word to those running Crossfore Hurricane that Page's Russian contacts were because Page has worked with the CIA. Not only did they not take that into account in their investigation, they did not list it when applying for FISA.

How is that anything other than intentional?

yeah there is no way out of that

they knew Page had contacts with Russians b/c of prior work with the CIA, and then they used these contacts for the FISA application, WITHOUT acknowledging why he had these contacts or his operational approval

oh yeah, and even with this dishonesty, IT WASN'T ENOUGH. they had to use the Steele Dossier, with its allegations that contradicted known information from the CIA and questionable origin, to get the FISA warrant
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11140 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:08 pm to
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Somehow, I feel if this were republicans doing this, more stuff would hit the fan...people arrested, tried, convicted.



That's a fact.

Just another example of Republicans snatching defeat from the mouths of victory.

Reminds me of the old incident investigations. You, You and You fricked up and caused this, and You over there covered it up. An you all are just too stupid to know whats going on.


But we're not here to point fingers.

Do better next time.
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