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re: Federal judges can be impeached/removed for "abuse of power"

Posted on 2/5/17 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 11:52 am to
You didnt know LSURussian was a shill?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 11:54 am to
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Vegas Bengal? I saw someone say awhile ago that you are like Vegas Bengal in your posting. Who was Vegas Bengal again?
You know damned well whom I'm referring to. And you know Russian is out of bounds here. I'd think more of him if he were one of the dumbasses. But he's not. He's smart and gets things just fine. He's just an aging, cynical bastard.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 11:55 am to
Of course it would. It wouldn't even get through the House. Like I said, this is not going to be the only bump in the road for Donald. There's no reason to overreact.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 11:55 am to
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You didnt know LSURussian was a shill?


He has no excuse.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10465 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:02 pm to
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this isn't an abuse of powe


What legal argument did the judge use to support his decision?

In your opinion what would be an abuse of power by a judge?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:07 pm to
The judge granted a Temporary Restraining Order, the decision to grant a TRO is not a decision on the merits. For instance both DAPA and DACA were hit with a TRO, but those EOs were ultimately upheld.

So the court here did not rule the EO constitutional. One of the requirements to grant a TRO is that there is a harm for which there is not an adequate remedy at law (at law in this context means monetary damages) which then justifies granting equitable relief (the TRO).
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:07 pm to
What in your view has the Seattle judge done that is impeachable? Going against El Trumpo doesn't count.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49038 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Legally the judge made the right decision.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
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n your opinion what would be an abuse of power by a judge?


The latest judges impeached were for perjury, bribery, sexual assault, and income tax evasion. I don't think "interpreting the law differently from Donald Trump" meets the same threshold.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
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What legal argument did the judge use to support his decision?


Kind of have to wait for the brief before we determine that


You need to look up what "abuse of power" in this situation means. It doesn't encompass all actions that you think it does
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:17 pm to
Strannix why don't you give us your review of why the decision is definitively "wrong".
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:17 pm to
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He's just an aging, cynical bastard.
You're really hung up on age. This is about the fifth time in the past week you've referenced my age.

How old do you think I am?

As far as being a "bastard" I know who my married parents are. Do you?

And there's a difference between being skeptical and cynical. And it's a very healthy difference.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:21 pm to
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The judge granted a Temporary Restraining Order, the decision to grant a TRO is not a decision on the merits. For instance both DAPA and DACA were hit with a TRO, but those EOs were ultimately upheld.

So the court here did not rule the EO constitutional. One of the requirements to grant a TRO is that there is a harm for which there is not an adequate remedy at law (at law in this context means monetary damages) which then justifies granting equitable relief (the TRO).


I've read the TRO...it doesn't really go into the merits of the filing just the basis for granting a TRO...has anyone seen the briefs that led the judge to conclude that the states were likely to prevail on the merits?
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:24 pm to
I haven't read either brief, I will say that a "likelihood of success on the merits" is not the same as "likely to succeed on the merits." The test is closer to "plaintiffs have asserted a claim which would survive a motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim."
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10465 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:36 pm to
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judges can be impeached/removed for "abuse of power"
quote:
n your opinion what would be an abuse of power by a judge?

The latest judges impeached were for perjury, bribery, sexual assault, and income tax evasion. I don't think "interpreting the law differently from Donald Trump" meets the same threshold.




I will ask again.

What is abuse of power by a judge?

We know what perjury, bribary and sexual assault are, but I am not sure what abuse of power would be. Is it possible that it could have anything to do with a ruling and non legal reasoning for the ruling?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:36 pm to
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You're really hung up on age. This is about the fifth time in the past week you've referenced my age.

How old do you think I am?
It's a variable that allows me to make sense of you. Don't be sensitive.

quote:

As far as being a "bastard" I know who my married parents are. Do you?
I know what they told me. Just as you do.
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:39 pm to
Ah yes. Impeach any judge who disagrees with God Emperor. What could possibly go wrong with that precedent?
Posted by PhoenixLSUTiger
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2007
1410 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:39 pm to
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Federal judges can be impeached/removed for "abuse of power"


So can "so called" presidents.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:42 pm to
I guess it's whatever the House wants to accuse them of. Looks like some of the OG judges were too damn drunk to perform their duties. Some of them probably hit on the first lady. I guess those could still apply today. Maybe this Robart guy is a warlock. I'm sure Donald's people are on it.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:47 pm to
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Your screen name still sucks....


Says the Russian.

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