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re: FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:34 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:34 am to ShortyRob
quote:
I swear to God
Explain it. It shouldn't be hard for you right?
How does the free market punish or influence ISPs?
Explain it.
People have been bitching about the shittiness of Cox for years with 0 ability to do anything about it because Cox is a monopoly. Most ISPs are local monopoly by design.
It's the old Bell Skelton in a different body.
Why would a company from Texas compete with a company from Louisiana when they can just create and preside over their own little fiefdoms?
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:35 am to ShortyRob
quote:Same folks that say “there’s no free market in healthcare. Surgeons can charge as much as they want”.
I swear to God. frick Public Education
Hell, if so, I’d become a surgeon and charge $10,000,000 per surgery. After a year. I’d retire.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:36 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Well. I mean yeah. I admit.
I can't digest all of economic history and how businesses respond in competitive markets for you into one or two TD posts.
Have you ever studied the reality of the old bell systems, local monopolies, barrier to entry in the ISP market, the history of net neutrality?
Attempt to explain to me how the free market could punish the only ISP in town.
Try to explain it.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:36 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
Data caps do nothing to improve the network.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:36 am to ShortyRob
Y’all have yet to give me a compelling reason to let me hand over the distribution channel of a free speech platform to AT&T, Comcast, and the rest of the Big Six. We have dismissed with little effort the Free Market argument. You are promoting Oligarchy and the death of the First Amendment.
Also Comcast has a lower approval rating than the IRS. Think about that for a moment. People say to themselves “Sure the IRS fricks me out of tens of thousands of dollars every year, but at least they’re not Comcast.”
Also Comcast has a lower approval rating than the IRS. Think about that for a moment. People say to themselves “Sure the IRS fricks me out of tens of thousands of dollars every year, but at least they’re not Comcast.”
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:36 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
I really am amazed some people are in favor of this
Bc they just don't understand it and are probably just old.
Most people under 40 seem to grasp it though.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:37 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
You pay for all that pirated porn you watch?
No, the porn I watch is on websites that generate revenue through ads. Just like YouTube, Google, Facebook, TigerDroppings or GASP! Pornhub.
I will act holier than thou because pieces of shite like you that pirate media content deserve to be cut off. I don't pirate.
And Kodi is not a "group of websites." It's a media streaming application.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:37 am to StraightCashHomey21
You’re talking to a group that already had their huddle and called the play. There’s nothing you can say or show to make them change their minds. Maybe one of the most glaring examples of a group of people went this hard against their own interests.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:38 am to LSURussian
quote:
If you actually think this scenario wouldn't result in either those companies losing massive amounts of their subscribers
You think people would just cancel the entire internet to their house and hope enough other people choose to cancel their entire internet?
That's your scenario?
quote:
immediate explosion in the number of ISP competitors
WHAT? How would you start an ISP? Do you have any idea what an ISP is?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:38 am to LSURussian
Explain what I said was wrong.....
Limiting data usage doesn't make anyone's internet experience better.
You know those peak hours when it seems your internet is slow. Its bc the infrastructure sucks and your ISP won't upgrade it to fiber or build new nodes.
Limiting data usage doesn't make anyone's internet experience better.
You know those peak hours when it seems your internet is slow. Its bc the infrastructure sucks and your ISP won't upgrade it to fiber or build new nodes.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:39 am to Breesus
quote:And when it was determined they were restricting competition, they were broken up.
Have you ever studied the reality of the old bell systems
Your example doesn't support your argument.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:39 am to Breesus
quote:
People have been bitching about the shittiness of Cox for years with 0 ability to do anything about it because Cox is a monopoly. Most ISPs are local monopoly by design.
Then address this problem directly instead of "net neutrality" bullshite that is only being pushed because of the mega content providers.
When Google, Facebook, and Amazon are all lobbying for something, I guarantee you the only one that will profit is Google, Facebook, and Amazon.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:40 am to Centinel
quote:
I don't pirate.
You don't pirate bc there's adds on websites where you watch your pirated content? Are you serious?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:40 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
You know those peak hours when it seems your internet is slow. Its bc the infrastructure sucks and your ISP won't upgrade it to fiber or build new nodes.
Ask him why the free market hasn't forced those ISPs to upgrade their infastructure to fiber and improve the quality of their service. Ask him that. And wait for an answer.
Why hasn't someone else just built an entire new fiber network all across the entire USA and set up a new ISP to compete? When said "an explosion of ISP competitors" so why haven't hundreds of companies done this?
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:40 am to Centinel
quote:
And Kodi is not a "group of websites." It's a media streaming application.
Yep. As I thought. You're a fricking retard.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:41 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
You don't pirate bc there's adds on websites where you watch your pirated content? Are you serious?
I don't pirate because the content on the websites isn't pirated.
It's not that hard to understand.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:41 am to Breesus
quote:Actually, it is. I mean, I would need to ramp you up from a VERY long way back.
Explain it. It shouldn't be hard for you right?
quote:Dude. You think there are permanent and insurmountable barriers to entry that would allow an ISP to basically do anything it would want.
How does the free market punish or influence ISPs? Explain it.
You might as well be saying, "I believe people can stop bullets with paper............explain to me how bullets kill people".
quote:Oh. I see. You think that because a problem wasn't solved in the time frame YOU have set, that it will remain permanent.
People have been bitching about the shittiness of Cox for years with 0 ability to do anything about it because Cox is a monopoly. Most ISPs are local monopoly by design.
You economic morons are likely too young to recall........but this argument isn't even new.
The exact same one took place regarding cable TV providers in the early 90s.
I can even show you video of people talking about the Dangers of the Sears monopoly in the early 80s.
THE SEARS MONOPOLY!!!!
Economic idiots are the same in every era
quote:
Why would a company from Texas compete with a company from Louisiana when they can just create and preside over their own little fiefdoms?
The level of ignorance in this question is staggering.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:42 am to LSURussian
quote:
If you actually think this scenario wouldn't result in either those companies losing massive amounts of their subscribers (the "market" reacting to their price increase) and/or to an immediate explosion in the number of ISP competitors undercutting their prices, then you're just not very bright.
Not if said customers have no other viable option for internet. If my ISP jacks the price up which is already well over market value. I have no where else to go bc the other provider can't offer more than 5meg down where I live.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:42 am to Breesus
quote:What time frame?
Attempt to explain to me how the free market could punish the only ISP in town. Try to explain it.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:42 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
Yep. As I thought. You're a fricking retard.
What was incorrect about my statement?
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