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Farage and Calexit
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:43 am
Anyone else think this might have legs?
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The 'Bad Boys of Brexit' who led the campaign to break Britain away from the European Union have taken on a new exit challenge: splitting California into two states. Former UKip leader Nigel Farage and Leave backer Arron Banks have just returned from the United States, where they helped raise $1million (£800,000) for a 'Calexit' campaign, which would split California into two eastern and western regions. There are several 'Calexit' campaigns competing for a referendum in the United States, with one aiming to remove the state from America entirely as a response to President Donald Trump being elected last year. Farage and Banks, who led the 'Leave.EU' campaign, appear to be pitting the eastern, more rural side of California against the western 'coastal elite' liberals in Los Angeles and San Francisco.
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If broken apart, the eastern part of California would more likely vote Republican, giving the party two more senators and electoral college votes for a 2020 presidential election. The Western side of the state would likely continue to vote Democrat in elections. Farage and Banks' goal is to hold a referendum during the US midterm elections in 2018, according to The Sunday Times. Banks said of the campaign: 'It would be portrayed as the Hollywood elites versus the people, breaking up the bad government. Seventy-eight per cent of people in California are unhappy with their government. It's the world's sixth largest economy and it's very badly run.'
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'This has been done before with West Virginia and Virginia and North and South Dakota, so it can work,' he said. Banks added: 'We were saying that people said the same about Brexit — and we just went and did it. The money was pledged to take it to the next level. This could be the greatest political showdown ever.' Gunster has helped win 30 state referendums in America and predicted the EU vote within .01 per cent. In California, 365,800 people have to sign a petition for a proposition to appear on a ballot. With a population of nearly 40 million, California is one of the most diverse states in America, with whites outnumbered by Hispanics and members of other ethnic groups, In 2015, it also had the sixth largest economy in the world, according to the International Monetary Fund -- ahead of France and India. In November's election, the state broke nearly two-to-one in favor of Trump's Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton. Another Calexit campaign emerging, called Yes California, would see the state seceding from America entirely. Should that initiative make it on the ballot, a 'Yes' vote would repeal clauses in the California Constitution 'stating California is an inseparable part of the United States and that the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land,' a statement from California's Secretary of State Alex Padilla's office said.
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:46 am to PoundFoolish
Even though this will never happen, goddamn it would be funny if it did.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:47 am to TheXman
I'd live in East California.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:50 am to PoundFoolish
Typical, rather than throwing their shoulder into the chaos they created they all haul arse and leave the hard work to others.
Ride the populism wave I guess.
Ride the populism wave I guess.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:50 am to PoundFoolish
I like Farage but he's going too far here. I'm sure the Brits wouldn't appreciate it if an American was trying to raise money to help divide Cornwall.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:52 am to PoundFoolish
Wouldn't L.A. still have to piggyback water off the Eastern Mountain range.
I would love to see those bitter politics come to play.
Shame all the pac-12 schools are in the west cause nothing sparks a good rivalry like bitter politics
I would love to see those bitter politics come to play.
Shame all the pac-12 schools are in the west cause nothing sparks a good rivalry like bitter politics
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:53 am to PoundFoolish
The funny a hell part is they would lose their water supply.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:53 am to Dire Wolf
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Wouldn't L.A. still have to piggyback water off the Eastern Mountain range.
LA County, yes. Parts of East LA and the OC would belong to East California.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:54 am to PoundFoolish
Does that mean the wall just got longer?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:55 am to PoundFoolish
Eastern California would be fantastic. Would seriously consider moving there if my wife would go.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:06 pm to PoundFoolish
I am not sure we will ever see new states added. We are going on 58 years since Alaska and Hawaii were added, which beats the previous record of 47 by over a decade. Adding states now comes with a huge financial cost as well, compared to the 1800s and 1900s.
With that being said, it would be awesome. We should not want it though, since Texas could easily be broken up as well. Same for Florida and NY.
With that being said, it would be awesome. We should not want it though, since Texas could easily be broken up as well. Same for Florida and NY.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:08 pm to DarthRebel
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We should not want it though, since Texas could easily be broken up as well. Same for Florida and NY.
I wouldn't be surprised to see this happening though. There are too many political forces at work to stop an eventual balkanization.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:11 pm to PoundFoolish
that'd be just like California.
Want to break with those meany conservatives cuz waaaahhhhhh
meanwhile, you just added 2 more republican seats in the senate...wait, wut???
Want to break with those meany conservatives cuz waaaahhhhhh
meanwhile, you just added 2 more republican seats in the senate...wait, wut???
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:17 pm to PoundFoolish
Useless unless there's a wall separating these two new states.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:19 pm to AUstar
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Useless unless there's a wall separating these two new states.
Or better yet the western part slides off into the Pacific. Then the east has beachfront property.
It would be a win\win.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:21 pm to alphaandomega
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Or better yet the western part slides off into the Pacific. Then the east has beachfront property.
It would be a win\win.
Was thinking that . . . I wonder how hard it would be to make West Calfornia its own peninsula?
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:21 pm to PoundFoolish
The leftists don't deserve all that coastline though. Give them the Mohave.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:23 pm to AUstar
State citizenship should be a thing.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:43 pm to PoundFoolish
Is the proposed border drawn on the fault line? If so, maybe Eastern California could begin doing some heavy fracking along the new border.
Edit - could result in additional coastline for Eastern California
Edit - could result in additional coastline for Eastern California
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 12:55 pm
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