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re: Faith in "Science" = "man made religion" (Evolution related)

Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:11 pm to
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Sure I do. You just have no evidence that life evolved from non-life

Quit using that word
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:20 pm to
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Again... Evolution takes over when life exists, not when it doesn't. I'll ask again, how dense are you? Are you the same guy that thinks the government would be responsible for your daughter becoming a prostitute?


You just don't want to admit that most scientists' claim that life evolved from non-life is based on blind faith.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:21 pm to
There isn't a biologist alive who believes life evolved from non-life. Not a single one.
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:22 pm to
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evolved

Dude, seriously. This is embarrassing. You obviously can't grasp the concept even in its most basic form.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:24 pm to
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Yes, abiogenesis is a very plausible explanation whose mechanism has been demonstrated multiple times with multiple different controls in the lab. That doesn't mean we have nearly the extensive evidence for origins that we do for evolution (which is considered undisputed in principle in the scientific community) but that we have a very good working idea of what very well could have occurred. What science still struggles with is the origins of matter and the universe, but that is a physics question not a biological one.



So since Science has no definitive proof for the origins of life, why all the name calling for people who hold a different view?
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:27 pm to
What was troubling about the video was many of these students and professors basically admitted to having faith in text books and "experts" that came before them demonstrating very little command of what they actually understand to be truth in "Science".

"yes, I guess you do have to believe"



Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:28 pm to
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There isn't a biologist alive who believes life evolved from non-life. Not a single one.


Really?

What do they claim life evolved from?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:36 pm to
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Dude, seriously. This is embarrassing. You obviously can't grasp the concept even in its most basic form.


Evolve means to change or develop slowly often into a better, more complex, or more advanced state.

LINK
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:38 pm to
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What do they claim life evolved from?

Again

Evolution is a process of life, not the start of it. fricks sake man.
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:40 pm to
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Evolve means to change or develop slowly often into a better, more complex, or more advanced state.

Quoting for reference that you actually might now have a basic sense of evolution, before you start asking where this life came from, which isn't evolution.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:43 pm to
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why all the name calling for people who hold a different view?


I will never insult someone who disputes abiogenesis. The origins of life aren't settled. Evolution, at least the principle mechanisms, is. Rejecting evolution in 2014 is simply willful ignorance, rejecting abiogenesis is a defensible position.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:43 pm to
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What do they claim life evolved from?


Life didn't evolve from anything, life arose from molecular precursors which arose from biochemical reactions between atoms.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:45 pm to
Perhaps that the point he is making HC?

origins of life had no "evolution " process...It just was there or dare I say "created" from nothing to something.

Because we weren't there to observe, all of us "believe" in something relative to origins of life.
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:48 pm to
This isn't about the origins of life though. Neither side has a claim greater than the other for the origin, but at least science is trying. But that's not what this thread is about. It's about evolution.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:52 pm to
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origins of life had no "evolution " process.

Stop conflating definitions.

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the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.



2.
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the gradual development of something, especially from a simple to a more complex form.


One has nothing to with abiogenesis. The other merely describes a change in state.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:56 pm to
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You just don't want to admit that most scientists' claim that life evolved from non-life is based on blind faith.


Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:58 pm to
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So since Science has no definitive proof for the origins of life, why all the name calling for people who hold a different view?


Because the view is absolutely ridiculous and should very much be ridiculed since it has done a lot of harm to society as a whole.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:00 pm to
watching this video

this is seriously stupid
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:02 pm to
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What was troubling about the video was many of these students and professors basically admitted to having faith in text books and "experts" that came before them demonstrating very little command of what they actually understand to be truth in "Science". "yes, I guess you do have to believe"


Let me guess, you also buy that chain email that Albert Einstein proves that God exists to his freshman science professor?
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:03 pm to
this is ray comfort... the banana man
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