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Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:07 pm
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:07 pm
having communication with a Russian diplomat through a third party?

The President is an international delegate.

I hated when Hannity and the butt pirate Repubs in the tank with anything that fits with the Republican Party's ideologies criticized Obama for shaking someone's hand and claimed this meant Obama was a Muslim terrorist or rapist or whatever they claimed.

Why are communications with Russia justification for an FBI investigation? I'd hope the President elect is communicating with one of the three most powerful countries in the world during the lame duck period.

Russia is more in line with US ideology than China. WTF is the FBI even doing? Russia going to nuke us? A bunch of paranoia about Russia is retarded.

Why lie about communicating with Russia? I wouldn't have cared if Trump or Hillary campaigned in Moscow.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:15 pm
Posted by a want
I love everybody
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:16 pm to
The problem with the communications is that they all denied having contacted them.

Beyond that: it's not normal for a head of state to have that sort of relationship with another government. And it sure as hell isn't normal to a head of state to have a relationship with an enemy.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:17 pm to
Everything?
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:18 pm to
Why question it? What does it even mean? So he communicated with Russia. Ok. He's the president elect. Since when is communicating with a delegate from a foreign country grounds for an FBI investigation?

It's propaganda to claim Russia is a major threat to our country's safety.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:19 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:23 pm to
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And it sure as hell isn't normal to a head of state to have a relationship with an enemy.


This way of thinking right here is why the human race is in serious jeopardy of going extinct. The time for having "enemies" has to come to an end if humans are going to survive another one hundred years. Same old thinking leads to the same old results and problems.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:24 pm to
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And it sure as hell isn't normal to a head of state to have a relationship with an enemy.


Why are they an "enemy"? Because they spy on us? So does Italy. So does Germany.

Because Crimea? That part of Ukraine wanted to be part of Russia. 6 people died in the invasion. More die in a weekend in Chicago because of gang violence.

Why wouldn't I want a President with a relationship to another foreign country? This is a selling point. I should want a team with no connection to one of the most powerful countries in the World?
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:27 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23614 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:25 pm to
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Why question it? What does it even mean? So she used a different server and sent a bunch of emails


i'm sure you are OK with the above, since we are just nonchalant about it all, right?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

So he communicated with Russia. Ok. He's the president elect. Since when is communicating with a delegate from a foreign country grounds for an FBI investigation?



In of itself, it's not. So why is he saying he didn't?
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:31 pm to
The question is the legal justification for an FBI investigation into Trump's ties to Russia. The evidence presented is circumstantial associations with Russia. It largely does not center into the DNC email investigation.

Even if he's connected to Russia, I don't understand what it would mean.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:32 pm to
Great question. I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the shed. I don't understand hiding it either. I'd straight out say I communicated with Russia.
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:33 pm to
I can't figure it out. Go ask the Clinton Foindation. ??
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:34 pm to
Agreed. Based on the justification they have for an FBI investigation into Russia, thousands of people should be under investigation.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84868 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:35 pm to
Enemy is overstated but they do behave like an organized crime syndicate and are generally bad actors in the international arena to say nothing of suppressing disent and eliminating domestic enemies.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11439 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:40 pm to
I agree but what the heck do I know
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:40 pm to
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they do behave like an organized crime syndicate and are generally bad actors in the international arena to say nothing of suppressing disent and eliminating domestic enemies.

Sounds like Crooked and her cronies.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84868 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:42 pm to
i don't like Hillary either but that's an outrageous comparison.
Posted by araminta
Tennessee, USA
Member since Apr 2005
423 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:46 pm to


Putin doesn't do petrodollar. Our masters, who control both the democrats and republicans, don't think it's kosher.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:47 pm to
I agree they're a repressive society. So are many Asian and South American countries.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:47 pm to
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i don't like Hillary either but that's an outrageous comparison.

No it isn't. JMHO.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

having communication with a Russian diplomat through a third party?
Potentially? A lot.

quote:

The President is an international delegate.
No. The president is not an international delegate. The president is the leader and de facto international arbiter of the western world. Trump hasn't executed this function well even in capacity ex officio.

How could his proxies do it during the transition?
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