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Exactly what laws produce this systematic racism
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:14 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:14 am
In the US that shows blacks to have the lowest median household incomes and Asians the highest?
I understand slavery and Jim Crow had their effects, but how could the Asians have done do well under our system? Remember 70 years ago we were locking many of them up in camps.
Black poverty is a problem under our system, but I see blacks here in BR that are learned, prosperous and upwardly mobile so it's not like there is no chance of success.
I see more oppression by a system that rewards bad behavior, supports generational welfare, encourages single moms to stay single and locks up voters who believe job one of government is to provide and care for the masses.
I understand slavery and Jim Crow had their effects, but how could the Asians have done do well under our system? Remember 70 years ago we were locking many of them up in camps.
Black poverty is a problem under our system, but I see blacks here in BR that are learned, prosperous and upwardly mobile so it's not like there is no chance of success.
I see more oppression by a system that rewards bad behavior, supports generational welfare, encourages single moms to stay single and locks up voters who believe job one of government is to provide and care for the masses.
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Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:15 am to doubleb
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Exactly what laws produce this systematic racism
Laws are inherently racist, you fascist.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:15 am to doubleb
First u systematically oppress me & now u r whitesplainin to me
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:21 am to doubleb
I would say that with the policies that make up the war on drugs, which increased our prison popoluation 400% within one generation, disproportionately affecting black men, that an argument could be made the systematic oppression exists within the WOD.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:23 am to doubleb
Is it systemic racism or systematic racism?
Take your time answering, it's important
Take your time answering, it's important
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:24 am to Kafka
I'm confused as to which word he used so I'm going with the stupid one for latarvis
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:24 am to BamaCoaster
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I would say that with the policies that make up the war on drugs, which increased our prison popoluation 400% within one generation, disproportionately affecting black men, that an argument could be made the systematic oppression exists within the WOD.
So if that is your excuse please explain to me the following:
1) Who were the Congress people that sponsored the laws on the books that lead to this mass incarceration?
2) Tell me what the difference sentencing guidelines between “crack” and “meth”?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:28 am to ABearsFanNMS
1) there was a shitton of them. Look it up for yourself.
2) the fact that there were two different guidelines for crack and cocaine sentences (20x worse for crack) should tell you all you need to know if you allow yourself to think. Cocaine is predominantly white peoples drug, while crack was a black. And, the crack hysteria was unfounded like most hysterias.
2) the fact that there were two different guidelines for crack and cocaine sentences (20x worse for crack) should tell you all you need to know if you allow yourself to think. Cocaine is predominantly white peoples drug, while crack was a black. And, the crack hysteria was unfounded like most hysterias.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:30 am to Kafka
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Is it systemic racism or systematic racism?
Its obviously whichever one you dont bring up with evidence against first, silly.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:31 am to BamaCoaster
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I would say that with the policies that make up the war on drugs,
Policies implemented by Clinton at the behest of many Black leaders, who believed it was the only way to regain control of some inner city communities.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:33 am to BamaCoaster
Answer the question and quit deflecting.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:33 am to doubleb
Excellent opinion piece today by Walter Williams, "Blacks vs. Police." This stood out to me.
Link to Article
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What's to blame for this mayhem? If you ask an intellectual, a leftist or an academic in a sociology or psychology department, he will tell you that it is caused by poverty, discrimination and a lack of opportunities. But the black murder rate and other crime statistics in the 1940s and '50s were not nearly so high as they are now. I wonder whether your intellectual, leftist or academic would explain that we had less black poverty, less racial discrimination and far greater opportunities for blacks during earlier periods than we do today. He'd have to be an unrepentant idiot to make such an utterance.
Link to Article
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:33 am to mattloc
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Policies implemented by Clinton
Started with Nixon, ramped up during Reagan
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behest of many Black leaders,
Doesn't matter.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:37 am to BamaCoaster
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the fact that there were two different guidelines for crack and cocaine sentences (20x worse for crack) should tell you all you need to know if you allow yourself to think.
So there "were" differences in laws? There are not now? Genuine question.
And do you not realize the difference between snorting cocaine and smoking crack?
Besides the fact they both contain cocaine, crack is by and far more addicting, longer lasting, and causes more harm to ones self and society
LINK
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:44 am to BamaCoaster
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Started with Nixon, ramped up during Reagan
Yep Ronnie Raygun and Nancy's "Just Say No" bled off into mandatory minimums for drug offenses along with "enhanced" sentencing for crack vs. powder.
This was during Iran-Contra when Ollie North took the fall for a WH led CIA Black Op to exchange S.American cocaine for guns, and sell the cocaine by the C-130 load in major US Cities, in order to buy guns and leaflets for the Iranian dissidents.
In other words, You dopeheads buy CIA powder or get worse sentence on rocks.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:48 am to BamaCoaster
So Kapernick and Eric Reid need to be more specific, they should be protesting the drug laws, right?
How come we don't hear that? How come all we hear is that they are protesting "systematic oppression" by the government?
How come we don't hear that? How come all we hear is that they are protesting "systematic oppression" by the government?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:53 am to BamaCoaster
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Started with Nixon, ramped up during Reagan
On tapes secretly recorded by former president Richard Nixon, Congressman Charles Rangel can be heard in closed door meetings urging Nixon to be more aggressive on the "War on Drugs."
But if Bill and Hillary Clinton were the pot, black politicians, activists, and pastors were the kettle. Their support of punitive measures actually paved the way for Clinton. It began with the man Ebony Magazine called the "front-line general in the war on drugs."
"The Clintons quite likely were motivated by political expediency -- appealing to white voters with "tough on crime" measures; however it is clear black leaders were simply desperate to rid communities of the gang violence terrorizing their communities. The crime wave was real with rapes, assaults, and murders at never before seen levels, especially in inner-cities."
Black Leaders supported the Clinton Crime Bill
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:54 am to BamaCoaster
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I would say that with the policies that make up the war on drugs, which increased our prison popoluation 400% within one generation, disproportionately affecting black men, that an argument could be made the systematic oppression exists within the WOD.
I disagree. Blaming the big bad WOD is just a cop out. The true problem is single parent (or no parent) families. And the widespread acceptance of welfare, especially long term assistance for those that are able bodied. The removal of the work ethic is probably the most detrimental think to occur in society.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:58 am to doubleb
Great Society (Medicare, medicaid, welfare, disability, Section 8, WIC, SNAP, etc) and the War on Drugs are the two biggest offenders.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:01 am to alphaandomega
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Blaming the big bad WOD is just a cop out.
You're right. Pretty complex issue here. Many pronged problem. Many pronged solution.
And, while welfare and the "war on poverty" allowed women to have fatherless children, the war on drugs removed a generation of black males from homes.
This thread began about exact policies of systematic racism. I answered it.
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