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Even IF... You Agree with Obama on Immigration - You Shouldn't Support Him
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:37 pm
What prevents the next president... From declaring that federal income tax payers won't be prosecuted if they simply short pay their bills by 50%?
Or declaring that environmental polluters... won't be prosecuted if they violate EPA regulation?
This nation was constituted as a nation of laws, not a nation of a single man.
It is amazing that liberal... carrying a name etymology rooted in liberty are now essentially rooting for a return to capricious governance by a single person.
Or declaring that environmental polluters... won't be prosecuted if they violate EPA regulation?
This nation was constituted as a nation of laws, not a nation of a single man.
It is amazing that liberal... carrying a name etymology rooted in liberty are now essentially rooting for a return to capricious governance by a single person.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 12:38 pm
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:39 pm to Taxing Authority
Dgaf about any of that. We have a problem that needs fixing.
Congress doesn't gaf and won't do it.
Glad someone is.
Congress doesn't gaf and won't do it.
Glad someone is.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:41 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
We have a problem that needs fixing.
Actually, we have a law that needs to be enforced.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:41 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
You have zero issue with the President creating laws with no checks and balance?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:41 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:When Mitt Romney was running for President and made campaign promises to write executive orders to change all sorts of things from banking regulations to the ACA to tax rates, did you say the same thing?
This nation was constituted as a nation of laws, not a nation of a single man.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:44 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:And BTW, I have a tough time opposing or supporting something until I actually hear / read what "it" is. We will have something to talk about tomorrow possibly.
Even IF... You Agree with Obama on Immigration - You Shouldn't Support Him
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:45 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:They you are quite short-sighted.
Dgaf about any of that.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:45 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Congress doesn't gaf and won't do it.
The Dems had a super majority from 08-10 why didn't they do something if it needed fixing? Why is this happening now when the Republicans are set to take over both houses of Congress?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:46 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:all of this, and I'm cool with the 50% or even higher in some cases, I'm not greedy like most righties.
Dgaf about any of that. We have a problem that needs fixing.
Congress doesn't gaf and won't do it.
Glad someone is.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:46 pm to Taxing Authority
It's my understanding that Obama is going to use "prosecutorial discretion" to not enforce the deportation of 5 million illegals. That alone does not give them rights as US citizens, they would still be in the US illegally.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:46 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Dgaf about any of that. We have a problem that needs fixing.
Congress doesn't gaf and won't do it.
Glad someone is.
How progressive. "We don't have time for that democracy bullshite!"
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:47 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
quote:
This nation was constituted as a nation of laws, not a nation of a single man.
When Mitt Romney was running for President and made campaign promises to write executive orders to change all sorts of things from banking regulations to the ACA to tax rates, did you say the same thing?
How many times do people try and fail at these lame gotchas?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:48 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
opposing or supporting
Your support or opposition won't matter tomorrow. It will be the deal with it moment.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:48 pm to MrLarson
He is not creating laws, he is nullifying them
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:48 pm to mmcgrath
quote:I would have. I honestly do not remember him saying he would suspend duly passed laws, though.
When Mitt Romney was running for President and made campaign promises to write executive orders to change all sorts of things from banking regulations to the ACA to tax rates, did you say the same thing?
But really, that isn't relevant. Mitt Romney isn't president. And he's not the guy doing those things.
Seems like a silly distraction to focus on what could have happened vs. what is happening?
Can you make an argument of merit that the precedent Obama is setting is a good thing? Or do you want to talk about something someone with zero power said in the past?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:49 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Congress doesn't gaf and won't do it. Glad someone is.
What is "it"? Do you know for sure what the details of "it" are? You don't know all the details (I doubt they've been finalized even now) and you are showing that you are either a troll or a blind supporter of Party over Country.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:50 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Dgaf about any of that. We have a problem that needs fixing.
Congress doesn't gaf and won't do it.
Glad someone is.
What does this fix?
Secures border? No.
Reduces strain on state budgets? No.
Prevents deportations? Deportations rarely actually occur, so it's irrelevant.
Increases self-esteem of those here illegally? YES WINNER THANK GOD
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:51 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Dgaf about any of that. We have a problem that needs fixing. Congress doesn't gaf and won't do it. Glad someone is.
Honest question; how is granting amnesty to millions of illegals," fixing the problem?" Is this going to stop other illegals from coming across the border? Is this going to answer any of the logistical problems raised by allowing so many illegals, legal status? How does this help all those seeking legal citizenship?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:51 pm to dante
quote:No it wouldn't. Just as saying "No one will be prosecuted for not paying 50% of their taxes" wouldn't any less of criminals. But honestly, what is the point of having laws, when they can simply be ignored?
It's my understanding that Obama is going to use "prosecutorial discretion" to not enforce the deportation of 5 million illegals. That alone does not give them rights as US citizens, they would still be in the US illegally.
The executive branch was NOT consituted to ignore laws. It's tasked with enforcing laws.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:52 pm to mmcgrath
The old
"Your guy was wrong too, so it must be OK" defense.
"Your guy was wrong too, so it must be OK" defense.
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