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Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:10 am to Goldrush25
He has not faced the full consequences of his actions because he knows his constitutional rights will not be protected. He won't get a fair trial.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:15 am to AggieDub14
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Because of the US government, he is stuck in Russia.
He happened to be stuck in Russia while he was running.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:17 am to AggieDub14
Traitor, and I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.
All the evidence you need is look who he ran too.
All the evidence you need is look who he ran too.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Yeah running to Ecuador because he knew he wouldn't get a fair trial.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:22 am to Azazello
He was running to Ecuador. His passport was revoked during his layover in Moscow. You can't leave a country without a valid passport.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:23 am to AggieDub14
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running
Indeed.
And where was his first stop?
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:24 am to Navytiger74
I disagree Navy
He did his part to MAGA
I am glad our govt. was exposed. I do not believe they should be spying on us. I appreciate him letting ue know.
Cannot see why someone that loves freedom has a probl3m with him
He did his part to MAGA
I am glad our govt. was exposed. I do not believe they should be spying on us. I appreciate him letting ue know.
Cannot see why someone that loves freedom has a probl3m with him
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:24 am to AggieDub14
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layover in Moscow
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:25 am to Azazello
So the federal government betrays the entire population of the US illegally and secretly...
And he betrays the federal government by telling the people they are betraying they were betrayed.
So...is America our government and institutions or is America the people?
Therein lies whether he is a traitor to America...because he certainly is a traitor to the government.
And he betrays the federal government by telling the people they are betraying they were betrayed.
So...is America our government and institutions or is America the people?
Therein lies whether he is a traitor to America...because he certainly is a traitor to the government.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:26 am to IceTiger
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And he betrays the federal government by telling the people they are betraying they were betrayed.
He did much more than that.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:26 am to AggieDub14
He's not perfect but I'd like to see him pardoned. He did good regardless of the law which is ethical development level 3
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:31 am to AggieDub14
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AggieDub14
So you actually believe most of that BS he is spewing?
I have friends in the intel community and they're some of the most patriotic people I know. You honestly think that the NSA is full of a bunch of Americans spying on other Americans?
This isn't "The Lives of Others"
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:32 am to Azazello
Also, the guy had a security clearance and directly violated his clearance. Not to mention he spilled every secret he had to the FSB.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:34 am to Azazello
I think the NSA is collecting data on millions of Americans. They may not be spying, but they are putting us all into a database. I believe the director of the NSA lied to congress and to America.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:42 am to AggieDub14
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I think the NSA is collecting data on millions of Americans. They may not be spying, but they are putting us all into a database.
What do you mean putting us all into a database? We are already in hundreds of databases. Social Security, local/state/federal government, passports, property taxes, cell phones, google, facebook, etc. Everything you do on a computer is automatically logged and tracked (hence the fine print when you sign up).
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I believe the director of the NSA lied to congress and to America.
When? What did he say?
Look man, I'm obviously on your side of the issue when it comes to preserving the integrity of the 4th amendment, but this notion that the NSA is the "American Stasi" is insanity.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:46 am to Azazello
The director of the NSA told Congress they weren't collecting data on millions of Americans. We know this is a lie.
Putting all our information into a centralized indexed database makes it easier for tyranny to exist.
Putting all our information into a centralized indexed database makes it easier for tyranny to exist.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:52 am to AggieDub14
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The director of the NSA told Congress they weren't collecting data on millions of Americans. We know this is a lie.
How do we know it's a lie? Is your source Snowden?
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Putting all our information into a centralized indexed database makes it easier for tyranny to exist.
About 100 years too late on this one. Every man/woman/child and all of their information exists in some 20+ databases in the federal government alone. Don't even get me started on consumer databases.
I work in bigdata. Remember when you signed up for that debit or credit card and you filled out all that personal info? That's stored. Did you know that you signed a release that all of your purchase information can be stored and sold to the highest bidder? I can easily purchase these lists and look at your consumer habits of everything youve ever purchased.
Scary times man - nobody reads the fine print. Unless you are willing to move to bum frick Alaska and drop off the grid - you're being tracked.
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:53 am to Azazello
Key words: centralized indexed database
Do you think Snowden was wrong there? Is the NSA not collecting data on us? Of Snowden's goal was to bring down the US, he could have done a lot more damage than he did. His goal was to expose the truth.
Do you think Snowden was wrong there? Is the NSA not collecting data on us? Of Snowden's goal was to bring down the US, he could have done a lot more damage than he did. His goal was to expose the truth.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 7:55 am
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:54 am to AggieDub14
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Key words: centralized indexed database
This already exists.
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