re: Ebola Nurse in Maine Takes a Bike Ride - Cops Follow

Gotta love some good fear mongering a few days before an election to make it appear you are doing something.

This shyt would have made a helluva Hitchcock movie.


Police follow contagious patient, mob follows police, serial killer catches Ebola while strangling nurse Ratched.

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That's the problem right there. No guarantees. That is still what has a good portion of the populace feeling uneasy whether there is merit to the statement or not imo.

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I'll clarify - the only way a patient at that level of illness could give you an infection is through direct sustained sexual contact, ingesting their bodily fluids, or rubbing those fluids directly onto a mucous membrane (i.e. not from person to surface to membrane). Even then, the chances of developing infection would depend on the person.

So...as long as they don't puke into someone's soup, who then continues eating said soup, no risk.

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So your institution's studies will show no Ebola virus in either emesis or feces for the first 36 hrs of symptomatic disease?

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Not absence, but low enough viral load to largely (almost entirely) preclude infection of another individual.

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In absence of virus, what is presumed etiology of gastroenteritis in that circumstance?

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You don't need to be shedding particularly large quantities of the virus from the symptoms for the virus to cause the symptoms, you know.

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low enough viral load to largely (almost entirely) preclude infection of another individual.

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What Ebola viral load is required to infect another individual?

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If the marble had been blue the guy would've gotten health insurance.

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No. Just blue balls.

It's all about managing actual risk vs perceived/paranoid risk. Actual risk tells us that this nurse was deprived of her liberty for no scientific reason. Your paranoia informs you otherwise.

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Actual risk tells us that this nurse was deprived

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Actual risk tells us a nurse was not capable of making that decision. Especially a nurse as emotionally unstable under the circumstances as to run her temperature up to 101° in a fit of rage.

But since you're struggling with the logic of Hickox not being allowed further airline transit, please juxtapose the Hickox decision with statements made by Tom Frieden regarding whether Amber Vinson should have travelled. You apparently think Frieden is stellar in his role. Just curious as to how you relate the two?

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Actual risk tells us a nurse was not capable of making that decision. Especially a nurse as emotionally unstable under the circumstances as to run her temperature up to 101° in a fit of rage.

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She didn't run her temperature up, she became angry/distressed which caused her face to flush. As I'm sure you know, increased increased blood flow to the face and forehead can increase locally the temperature of the skin of the face and forehead. So of course a hand-held thermometer will pick up an increase when pointed at the forehead - however, this is in no way indicative of true fever, which is why she should have been checked with an oral thermometer immediately.

Subsequently, when she was checked at the hospital by oral thermometer, she had no fever. However, the airport (and state) was only interested in quarantining her, regardless of presence of disease.


And I wasn't on the phone call with Vinson - there are perfectly acceptable circumstances where she could have been told it was low/no risk, then after more facts came out it was deemed too much a risk. I know you have some personal vendetta against Frieden, but he personally had nothing to do with that phone call, either.