re: Drug legalization not working out well at all in Oregon

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Stanford professor doesn't think it was crazy to wholly decriminalize all illicit narcotics. a

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He can’t admit he was wrong because he probably lobbied for it.

I bet he can tell you exactly what Eugene didn’t do correctly and why it will really work next time.

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Shocking. Usually addicts are super pumped about getting help with their addiction.

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I heard they make good neighbors too. Keep their property well maintained, mind their own business, etc. Personally, I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to have a bunch of junkies live next door to them.

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People sprawled on sidewalks and using fentanyl with no fear of consequence have become a common sight in cities such as Eugene and Portland. Business owners and local leaders are upset, but so are liberal voters who hoped decriminalization would lead to more people getting help. In reality, few drug users are taking advantage of new state-funded rehabilitation programs.

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I don't have a strong stance on decriminalizing hard drugs either way. I know what we're doing isn't working, but, I just haven't seen enough real-world examples to be convinced by either side. That said, it sounds more like they de facto full-on legalized both hard drugs and public intoxication by neutering law enforcement. Why does 'decriminalization' equal being allowed to shoot up in front of of a business or anywhere else in public? You can't even get away with that with Bud Light in most of the country.

Oregon voters are retards and their stance on defunding police is incompatible with decriminalizing hard drugs.

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liberal voters who hoped decriminalization would lead to more people getting help. In reality, few drug users are taking advantage of new state-funded rehabilitation program

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people like this love among us
they actually thought that making drugs legal would lead to more people stopping

People turn against these things because they can see the harm being done.

By contrast, they get to ignore the much worse harm being done by abortion because it isn't in their face.

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Business owners and local leaders are upset, but so are liberal voters who hoped decriminalization would lead to more people getting help.

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Name a time when removing consequences has encouraged people to change their behavior?

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The number of fatal overdoses in Oregon during the 12 months that ended in May rose 23% from the same period a year earlier to 1,500, according to preliminary federal data.

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In Oregon alone, Leftist policies have kill many, many more people than “white nationalists”. Who is the real danger?

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Liberals love using punishment for behavior modification, I don't get why they think it won't work with criminals and addicts?

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It’s easy as shite to manipulate people with few options in life. Career criminals and addicts are two of those groups.

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It’s things that this that make you stop and think that perhaps generations past weren’t just a bunch of old fools. They addressed problems with real solutions because they understood the consequences of failing to act.

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One of my favorite Chesterton shorts:

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In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: “If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.

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arly three years into an experiment that proponents hoped would spark a nationwide relaxation of drug laws, many in Oregon have turned against the decriminalization initiative known as Measure 110, which passed with 58% support in 2020.

People sprawled on sidewalks and using fentanyl with no fear of consequence have become a common sight in cities such as Eugene and Portland. Business owners and local leaders are upset, but so are liberal voters who hoped decriminalization would lead to more people getting help. In reality, few drug users are taking advantage of new state-funded rehabilitation programs.

Change appears likely. A coalition of city officials, police chiefs and district attorneys recently called on the state legislature to recriminalize hard drugs. A measure to do so is in the works for next year’s ballot. A recent poll found the majority of Oregonians support the idea.

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You have to hit rock bottom before you can hope to recover successfully.