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Donald Trump's take on windmills is amazing
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:00 pm
I love when Trump goes on these idiosyncratic rants that annoy and upset the left. I think my all-time favorite is his passionate hatred of windfarms. This is Trump at his best - off the cuff, hyperbolic, and trolling hard core.
August 2016 - PA rally with video embed
“It’s so expensive,” Trump said of alternative energy at a rally in Pennsylvania.
“And honestly, it’s not working so good. I know a lot about solar. I love solar. But the payback is what, 18 years? Oh great, let me do it. Eighteen years,” he said, turning to wind power. “The wind kills all your birds. All your birds, killed. You know, the environmentalists never talk about that.”
October 2016 - Herman Cain's radio programme
[Wind power] kills all the birds,” Trump told 2012 Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on the latter’s radio show Tuesday. “Thousands of birds are lying on the ground. And the eagle. You know, certain parts of California?—?they’ve killed so many eagles. You know, they put you in jail if you kill an eagle. And yet these windmills [kill] them by the hundreds.”
Trump also told Cain that solar and wind are “very, very expensive” and “not working on a large-scale.” And he criticized the way wind turbines look, calling the windmills in Palm Springs, California a “junkyard.”
BBC - November 2016 - Trump attacks "awful" Scottish wind farms
Donald Trump urged Nigel Farage to campaign against wind farms in Scotland because he believes they "sully" the country's beauty, it has been claimed. The president-elect, who fought against an offshore wind project near his Aberdeenshire golf resort, met Mr Farage in New York last week.
Mr Trump has now indicated that the subject of wind farms was brought up. Leave EU campaigner Andy Wigmore, who was at the meeting, said Mr Trump was "offended" by wind turbines.
Wigmore also said Mr Trump had described Scotland as the "most beautiful country ever", but that he did not want it to be "sullied by these awful windmills".
August 2016 - PA rally with video embed
“It’s so expensive,” Trump said of alternative energy at a rally in Pennsylvania.
“And honestly, it’s not working so good. I know a lot about solar. I love solar. But the payback is what, 18 years? Oh great, let me do it. Eighteen years,” he said, turning to wind power. “The wind kills all your birds. All your birds, killed. You know, the environmentalists never talk about that.”
October 2016 - Herman Cain's radio programme
[Wind power] kills all the birds,” Trump told 2012 Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on the latter’s radio show Tuesday. “Thousands of birds are lying on the ground. And the eagle. You know, certain parts of California?—?they’ve killed so many eagles. You know, they put you in jail if you kill an eagle. And yet these windmills [kill] them by the hundreds.”
Trump also told Cain that solar and wind are “very, very expensive” and “not working on a large-scale.” And he criticized the way wind turbines look, calling the windmills in Palm Springs, California a “junkyard.”
BBC - November 2016 - Trump attacks "awful" Scottish wind farms
Donald Trump urged Nigel Farage to campaign against wind farms in Scotland because he believes they "sully" the country's beauty, it has been claimed. The president-elect, who fought against an offshore wind project near his Aberdeenshire golf resort, met Mr Farage in New York last week.
Mr Trump has now indicated that the subject of wind farms was brought up. Leave EU campaigner Andy Wigmore, who was at the meeting, said Mr Trump was "offended" by wind turbines.
Wigmore also said Mr Trump had described Scotland as the "most beautiful country ever", but that he did not want it to be "sullied by these awful windmills".
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:01 pm to SirWinston
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. “The wind kills all your birds. All your birds, killed.
citation needed
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:02 pm to SirWinston
"Windmill or no windmill, he said, life would go on as it had always gone on--that is, badly"
-orwell
-orwell
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:03 pm to SirWinston
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Mr Trump had described Scotland as the "most beautiful country ever"
damn right
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:04 pm to SirWinston
Truth is that windmills do not do the surrounding natural beauty any favors.
Of course neither do legacy power sources, but at least you only need 1 of them for 100s of windmills.
Of course neither do legacy power sources, but at least you only need 1 of them for 100s of windmills.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:05 pm to Swoopin
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Truth is that windmills do not do the surrounding natural beauty any favors.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:06 pm to SirWinston
I can appreciate the windmills for being an example of human design and engineering, but I agree they are not pretty and do not add to natural landscapes like the internet loves to say.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:09 pm to SirWinston
You'd think an inveterate blowhard like tRump would be all about windmills....
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:09 pm to rocket31
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rocket31
I'm all for cost-effective alternative power generation, but wind would be last on my list simply because of how much of an eyesore they are. I guess that could work in sparsely populated areas out West (which would also be prime candidates for solar), but I don't want my vistas taken up by giant rows of blades.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:10 pm to SirWinston
Wind seems to be good alternative energy source as does solar. I doubt electric companies would be investing in solar energy if it was so bad? Don't get me wrong nothing will take the place of oil but it's good to diversify and we have had a lot of job growth in solar.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:10 pm to SirWinston
We hate our windmills don't we?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:11 pm to SirWinston
He didn't say birds die to them.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:11 pm to HempHead
Anyone enjoy the view of electric lines?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:12 pm to SirWinston
I find it ironic that environmentalists are ok with wind turbines killing birds, but go absolutely ape shite when someone wants to build something in an area where some pink speckled, crested, featherless bird lives.
There are large areas in California where people have tried to build water reservoirs but some damn frog, salamander or spider have kept the project stalled for years.
There are large areas in California where people have tried to build water reservoirs but some damn frog, salamander or spider have kept the project stalled for years.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:12 pm to rocket31
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Yeah, they really improve the looks of things.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:13 pm to SirWinston
They sure uglied up the East end of the Columbia River gorge. Wind is not practical, not steady base load power. Same with solar. You still have to have some other kind of plant to fill in the gaps. Nuclear is the only way to go. Some of these new designs are incapable of melting down just by the physics of the design. Some of them can use raw uranium ore (no need to enrich) or even nuclear waste as fuel. It's estimated that if we powered the country entirely with these kinds of breeder reactors that can do their own enrichment in the chamber as the reaction happens, we would have approximately 700 years worth of fuel sitting around as nuclear waste. Don't know how many trillions of dollars worth of power that is but it's alot
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:13 pm to alphaandomega
Wind turbines really do kill a ton of birds.
Nuclear power is such a no brainer it's only because of the various lobbies that large and wealthy first-world countries dont go heavy on nuclear.
Nuclear power is such a no brainer it's only because of the various lobbies that large and wealthy first-world countries dont go heavy on nuclear.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:16 pm to Rakim
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Anyone enjoy the view of electric lines?
Fair enough.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:16 pm to Rakim
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Wind seems to be good alternative energy source as does solar. I doubt electric companies would be investing in solar energy if it was so bad? Don't get me wrong nothing will take the place of oil but it's good to diversify and we have had a lot of job growth in solar.
where would wind and solar energy be in this country if not heavily supported by tax dollars? would they even exist?
petroleum on the other hand is heavily taxed at every level of government and at multiple stages of processing - and maybe it should be
is there a good reason for energy companies to invest in solar other than to reap tax dollar subsidies?
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:20 pm
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