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Donald Trump's take on windmills is amazing

Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:00 pm
I love when Trump goes on these idiosyncratic rants that annoy and upset the left. I think my all-time favorite is his passionate hatred of windfarms. This is Trump at his best - off the cuff, hyperbolic, and trolling hard core.

August 2016 - PA rally with video embed

“It’s so expensive,” Trump said of alternative energy at a rally in Pennsylvania.
“And honestly, it’s not working so good. I know a lot about solar. I love solar. But the payback is what, 18 years? Oh great, let me do it. Eighteen years,” he said, turning to wind power. “The wind kills all your birds. All your birds, killed. You know, the environmentalists never talk about that.”

October 2016 - Herman Cain's radio programme

[Wind power] kills all the birds,” Trump told 2012 Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on the latter’s radio show Tuesday. “Thousands of birds are lying on the ground. And the eagle. You know, certain parts of California?—?they’ve killed so many eagles. You know, they put you in jail if you kill an eagle. And yet these windmills [kill] them by the hundreds.”
Trump also told Cain that solar and wind are “very, very expensive” and “not working on a large-scale.” And he criticized the way wind turbines look, calling the windmills in Palm Springs, California a “junkyard.”




BBC - November 2016 - Trump attacks "awful" Scottish wind farms

Donald Trump urged Nigel Farage to campaign against wind farms in Scotland because he believes they "sully" the country's beauty, it has been claimed. The president-elect, who fought against an offshore wind project near his Aberdeenshire golf resort, met Mr Farage in New York last week.

Mr Trump has now indicated that the subject of wind farms was brought up. Leave EU campaigner Andy Wigmore, who was at the meeting, said Mr Trump was "offended" by wind turbines.

Wigmore also said Mr Trump had described Scotland as the "most beautiful country ever", but that he did not want it to be "sullied by these awful windmills".

This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:01 pm to
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. “The wind kills all your birds. All your birds, killed.


citation needed
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:02 pm to
"Windmill or no windmill, he said, life would go on as it had always gone on--that is, badly"

-orwell

This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Mr Trump had described Scotland as the "most beautiful country ever"


damn right
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:04 pm to
Truth is that windmills do not do the surrounding natural beauty any favors.

Of course neither do legacy power sources, but at least you only need 1 of them for 100s of windmills.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Truth is that windmills do not do the surrounding natural beauty any favors.
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:06 pm to
I can appreciate the windmills for being an example of human design and engineering, but I agree they are not pretty and do not add to natural landscapes like the internet loves to say.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:09 pm to
You'd think an inveterate blowhard like tRump would be all about windmills....
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:09 pm to
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rocket31



I'm all for cost-effective alternative power generation, but wind would be last on my list simply because of how much of an eyesore they are. I guess that could work in sparsely populated areas out West (which would also be prime candidates for solar), but I don't want my vistas taken up by giant rows of blades.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:10 pm to
Wind seems to be good alternative energy source as does solar. I doubt electric companies would be investing in solar energy if it was so bad? Don't get me wrong nothing will take the place of oil but it's good to diversify and we have had a lot of job growth in solar.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:10 pm to
We hate our windmills don't we?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:11 pm to
He didn't say birds die to them.

Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:11 pm to
Anyone enjoy the view of electric lines?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13490 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:12 pm to
I find it ironic that environmentalists are ok with wind turbines killing birds, but go absolutely ape shite when someone wants to build something in an area where some pink speckled, crested, featherless bird lives.

There are large areas in California where people have tried to build water reservoirs but some damn frog, salamander or spider have kept the project stalled for years.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45707 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Yeah, they really improve the looks of things.

Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:13 pm to
They sure uglied up the East end of the Columbia River gorge. Wind is not practical, not steady base load power. Same with solar. You still have to have some other kind of plant to fill in the gaps. Nuclear is the only way to go. Some of these new designs are incapable of melting down just by the physics of the design. Some of them can use raw uranium ore (no need to enrich) or even nuclear waste as fuel. It's estimated that if we powered the country entirely with these kinds of breeder reactors that can do their own enrichment in the chamber as the reaction happens, we would have approximately 700 years worth of fuel sitting around as nuclear waste. Don't know how many trillions of dollars worth of power that is but it's alot
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
81349 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:13 pm to
Wind turbines really do kill a ton of birds.

Nuclear power is such a no brainer it's only because of the various lobbies that large and wealthy first-world countries dont go heavy on nuclear.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Anyone enjoy the view of electric lines?



Fair enough.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5183 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Wind seems to be good alternative energy source as does solar. I doubt electric companies would be investing in solar energy if it was so bad? Don't get me wrong nothing will take the place of oil but it's good to diversify and we have had a lot of job growth in solar.


where would wind and solar energy be in this country if not heavily supported by tax dollars? would they even exist?

petroleum on the other hand is heavily taxed at every level of government and at multiple stages of processing - and maybe it should be

is there a good reason for energy companies to invest in solar other than to reap tax dollar subsidies?
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:20 pm
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