re: Do You People Want Every Single Illegal Immigrant Deported No Matter What?

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They were all about open borders and amnesty.

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I'm against both open borders and amnesty and have never once advocated for either.

A "pathway" to legal status is not amnesty. The Gang of 8 bill was not amnesty. That was a lie. Amnesty means you just clear them and they start fresh immediately. The pathway put forward would have taken 10 years, would have had a bunch of qualifications, back taxes, fines, etc. Make it hard. Make sure they all have a job. Make sure they all pay fines and back taxes. Do whatever. I don't care. Just don't kick a kid out who doesn't know what country he is going back to. That is wrong. I'll never give an inch on that. He didn't choose to come here. It was forced on him. So, give him a way to get right with the law. If he chooses not to take the chance, then deport him.

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We are indeed broke. We have been the world's donation machine for far too long.

I just wish liberals and others would shush a bit and give their own resources to Mexicans in Mexico until it hurts. If they really care about these people they will help them in their own countries so they don't have to break the law.

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How is letting around a million DACA kids stay going to make us more broke? Require that they all have a job and pay taxes. They are ALREADY HERE.

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A "pathway" to legal status is not amnesty.

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Yes it is. It is saying "hey, you broke the law, but so what?". It will encourage more and more illegal immigration as they flood in here hoping for the same treatment.

If only other lawbreakers could get amnesty for their crimes. I got a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt when I was a valet driver 8 years ago. Where was the amnesty for me? I knowingly broke a law, why shouldn't I get it waived?

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Require that they all have a job and pay taxes.

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Sure. But who is enforcing that?

Won't it be considered immoral to keep them from getting on assistant programs?

Are you just going to let them die in the street if they can't afford food or medical coverage?

You are smarter than this. The system will be gamed as it always is.

Yes.

I prefer we adopt Mexico's immigration laws.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
?Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)
?Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)
?Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)
?The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)

?Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
?A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
?A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).


?Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
?Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

?Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
?Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
?Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.

?“A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)
?Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
?Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)

?A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
?Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

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Sure. But who is enforcing that?

Won't it be considered immoral to keep them getting on assistant programs?

Are you just going to let them die in the street if they can't afford food or medical coverage?

You are smarter than this. The system will be gamed as it always is.

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Why would you think that a kid who grew up here, graduates high school, speaks perfect English - will end up on public assistance their whole life? Just because they are Hispanic?

What???

Make a 10 year process where they have to prove they are working throughout the process or they are kicked off the pathway and lose their status. They have to check in and prove that they are working and paying taxes. This is not that hard. We all have tax returns. We all can prove employment and income.

Man the Kasich/Rubio supporter melts have been more fun than the Hillary supporter melts

Who be "you people"?