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re: Do you believe there is any truth to 9/11 conspiracy theories?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:03 pm to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:03 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:04 pm to IceTiger
Basically you have 35,000 pounds of JP4 jet fuel. Steel beams melt between X and X. This info is unpublished for a reason. The biggest random at this point is how well those beams are protected by fireproofing. Additionally, the outer skin of the building (which is the strongest part of the building) was attached by metal tabs and it was these tabs that failed in the fire. Then physics takes over. Concrete weighs about 150 pounds a cubic foot (with rebar). You are staring at a building collapse. The building was designed to take a strike from a Boeing 707 and survive. The airliner that stuck the towers had a much bigger fuel load.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:04 pm to kingbob
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There was no flight intercept simply because we really had gotten just that lax and incompetent. Never attribute to malevolence what could just as easily be attributable to incompetence.
This is absolutely true, America does not stand up alert interceptors unless there is a reason.
It would take an hour or so to divert fighters and tanker support that were already prepped for training sorties...it would be more difficult at night, unless perchance some Wing is running night training sorties
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:04 pm to OMLandshark
quote:There's a simple answer to most of those questions. It's been well documented that there were a lot of "security" workers in the towers in the days leading up to 911. You can find that information. No one to this day has given any official list of who those "workers" were, just that they were doing some kind of drills basically.
But with the WTC, how could you have possibly pulled that off? Who planted the bombs? Who made the bombs? How did no one else in the building come across the bombs? Who approved of this plan? How did they get past security to plant bombs in the building? Who got the families involved in this? Why did they just frick up on Building 7? How did they implement this plan so quickly?
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:10 pm to ozland
Also, steel doesn't have to melt to fail. It weakens rapidly with increases in temperature, hence the need for fireproofing on structural members,
The same fireproofing likely to have been partially stripped away by a freaking airplane crashing into it.
The same fireproofing likely to have been partially stripped away by a freaking airplane crashing into it.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:10 pm to airfernando
One of them would have talked. There would have to have been thousands of people in on it.
And really the janitors didn't find the bombs? Where the frick could they have hidden explosives of that magnitude? Did they build compartments into the floor just in case they wanted to mass murder people? No way in hell could they have covered it.
And really the janitors didn't find the bombs? Where the frick could they have hidden explosives of that magnitude? Did they build compartments into the floor just in case they wanted to mass murder people? No way in hell could they have covered it.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:13 pm to airfernando
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There's a simple answer to most of those questions. It's been well documented that there were a lot of "security" workers in the towers in the days leading up to 911. You can find that information. No one to this day has given any official list of who those "workers" were, just that they were doing some kind of drills basically.
A lot of things have been "documented" that don't mean crap.
Someone would have sold their story for money.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:21 pm to OMLandshark
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One of them would have talked. There would have to have been thousands of people in on it.
That's a misnomer.
Remember the Maine!
Louistsnia?
I'll give you the war. Hearst
Big lies are the easiest.
American history proves that. We make a glory out of it.
Not saying it happened but your logic assumes logic. That's not how the world works.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:22 pm to DavidTheGnome
The buildings were certainly not brought down by controlled demolition. Everything that happened has very plausible explanations.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:22 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
You're talking about things tha happened 100 year ago. It's a much different world
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:23 pm to IceTiger
Guiliani was in tower 7 and was advised to leave that very day.
WTC7 -- This is an Orange
WTC 7 - An Epic Fairy Tale
WTC Demolition Flashes (ON VIDEO)
All the towers collapsed like a planned demolition. People at the scene heard bombs go off.
WTC7 -- This is an Orange
WTC 7 - An Epic Fairy Tale
WTC Demolition Flashes (ON VIDEO)
All the towers collapsed like a planned demolition. People at the scene heard bombs go off.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:26 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I don't know what you're talking about, but if it came out, then it proves my point.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
Nope. Not one bit.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:28 pm to zatetic
Those are air pressure bursts caused by the compression of air being forced downwards as the floors above collapse.
You can actually see little puffs of air escaping from most floors prior to the collapse reaching them.
You can actually see little puffs of air escaping from most floors prior to the collapse reaching them.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:31 pm to zatetic
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Guiliani was in tower 7 and was advised to leave that very day.
WTC7 -- This is an Orange
WTC 7 - An Epic Fairy Tale
WTC Demolition Flashes (ON VIDEO)
All the towers collapsed like a planned demolition. People at the scene heard bombs go off.
I don't even remember what this picture is related to
Videos are pure fantasy. I suppose planting suggestions will get a few biters every time
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:32 pm to kingbob
Or bombs.
It was amazing the owner of the building that works from that building everyday and his family all managed to not show up that day. Crazy.
It was amazing the owner of the building that works from that building everyday and his family all managed to not show up that day. Crazy.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:33 pm to zatetic
dude, that is an obvious photoshop.
It took me 3 seconds on google to find the original image.
don't believe everything infowars tells you.
It took me 3 seconds on google to find the original image.
don't believe everything infowars tells you.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:35 pm to saintsfan92612
I literally said I don't remember where that picture came from. Thanks for finding that 
I don't go to infowars. Alt-right is the controlled opposition.
I don't go to infowars. Alt-right is the controlled opposition.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:38 pm to zatetic
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It was amazing the owner of the building that works from that building everyday and his family all managed to not show up that day. Crazy.
Ok, so the President or whoever comes up to the man who owns the building and says we're going to potentially kill all 70,000 people who work in the building. Do you think he wouldn't go to the press with that information? He would for sure go there.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:46 pm to OMLandshark
I know a guy from Jersey who used to work at the WTC who was lucky enough to not go to work that day. I think he actually was in a minor fender bender on the way to work. He must be illuminati.
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