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Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:35 pm to
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This is such a stupid talking point. Just how long does it take to make four or five tweets? Less time than it takes to take a good shite.


It shows that he has a priority problem and is consumed by criticism. That does take up a lot of time. Arguing how long it takes to tweet is a deflection.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:40 pm to
He made a campaign promise and he's trying to keep it. I believe that.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:49 pm to
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fricking woman. If you were my son.


If he was your son/woman he would probably be pretty dumb.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34901 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:06 pm to
ObamaCare was DESIGNED to crash the Private Insurance Market while expanding Subsidies for the poor that the Progs KNEW that could/would never be taken away. This is the last chance to resurrect those Insurance Companies...from the dead. If that don't work, it's Single Payer/Government Healthcare for all of us but the very rich and the Elite Governing Class.

Trump's MO is..."whatever it takes". The "legislative process" is all but dysfunctional; if Obamacare is repealed, then the Dems will jump in for the kind of inevitable Government subsidization that WILL be enacted. More a matter of whose Name ends up on the Bill.

This ship has sailed. Government Healthcare is a virtual fait accompli. The best we can hope for is an honest and efficient management therein.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64325 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:23 pm to
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No one here will admit this.

But he has no plan for much of his agenda

(You know this how?)

and certainly no patience with the process. (True so far)
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 9:20 pm to
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So exactly how much of a financial hit are you going to take if Obamacare gets repealed?


Zero.

How much are you going to make when it's repealed? Surely you only want to kick 22M off of their insurance and sentence 10s of thousands of Americans to death because you personally profit.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 9:58 pm to
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sentence 10s of thousands of Americans to death


How many died before 2010, when Obamacare was passed? Hyperbole much?

I think the Algore/climate hoax crowd pretty much sentenced the world population to death by now for not bowing to the church of global warming/climate change anyway. We should have several hundred thousand to spare, since that's all been proven to be bullshite.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15384 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:00 pm to
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Zero.

How much are you going to make when it's repealed? Surely you only want to kick 22M off of their insurance and sentence 10s of thousands of Americans to death because you personally profit.
No, we want said 22m to pay for their own, like everyone else.

Now if you personally and everyone else stupid enough want to pay for those 22m with voluntary contributions of your own want to do so, feel free to do it.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:01 pm to
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How many died before 2010, when Obamacare was passed?


Due to lack of insurance?

There are different estimates, but they range from the thousands to tens of thousands a year.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48298 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:04 pm to
Didn't see insurance in the oath docs take. Can you point it out me?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:06 pm to
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Didn't see insurance in the oath docs take.


Didn't see where providing care for free for every patient was sustainable. Can you point out that economic law?
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15384 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:16 pm to
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Didn't see where providing care for free for every patient was sustainable. Can you point out that economic law?
Neither is forcing people to pay for others against their will.

You're fine with that though.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:17 pm to
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Neither is forcing people to pay for others against their will.


They were paying for others against their will before the ACA. We made it more efficient.

You're welcome.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48298 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:17 pm to
You support ocare but speak to economics? you're a doc aren't you? Does your hospital deny life-saving care to those without insurance?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48298 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:18 pm to
Wait. Aca isn't paying for others against their will?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:20 pm to
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Does your hospital deny life-saving care to those without insurance?


What life-saving care? We administered over $75 million in charity, uncompensated care last year.

However, that doesn't mean that we're able to give away our services for free to everyone. Those with insurance are much more likely to receive treatment in some form, especially for chronic conditions like diabetes and cancer.

Or are you still under the mistaken impression that someone without insurance can just walk into an infusion center and demand chemo? Bless your heart.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:33 pm to
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There are different estimates, but they range from the thousands to tens of thousands a year.


Sounds like a fantastic incentive to get a job and/or pay for health insurance, like the rest of us do.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15384 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:37 pm to
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They were paying for others against their will before the ACA. We made it more efficient.

You're welcome.
Stealing more from me isn't something you're going to be thanked for by anyone with a functional brain
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48298 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:38 pm to
Point taken. How many died from lack of chemo treatment due to lack of insurance pre Aca compared to post?
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:57 pm to
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Looks like two in a row Executive Order presidents.
I agree. Neither of them particularly likes working with others. They would rather leave the messy parts to others. And that is not leadership.
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