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re: Did y'all know 52 million people payed no federal income taxes in 2014
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:15 pm to papasmurf1269
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:15 pm to papasmurf1269
That's actually a low ball figure. Because I don't think you're required to file a tax return if you earn under a certain amount. Combine that group with the one you mentioned and your figure grows to about 47%.
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:16 pm to mmcgrath
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If you had a national sales tax, but some people didn't buy anything
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:16 pm to PhillipJFry
quote:I can't even really be around a whiny liberal who's bitching about needing something else free in life in April. This is the month where homicide just doesn't seem like that a bad of an idea. My frick you attitude goes up about ten fold this time of year and doesn't subside for at least 60 days
I have never been more pissed off with taxes then I am this year. It is really frustrating the amount of taxes I pay and people just get my money for being a lazy fat arse on welfare for example.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:16 pm to papasmurf1269
quote:So yes, you want to tax people for just being alive. What an idiot.
if you are living in this country then you need to pay a little something. Don't just sponge off the rest of us that are paying something
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:18 pm to papasmurf1269
And I don't mean to add fuel to the fire here people but a lot of those people who paid zero actually paid less than zero. They were net gainers
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:18 pm to mmcgrath
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So yes, you want to tax people for just being alive.
those roads exist whether you use them or not
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:18 pm to mmcgrath
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So yes, you want to tax people for just being alive
also, that's literally what the ACA is. a tax on existence
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:19 pm to mmcgrath
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So yes, you want to tax people for just being alive. What an idiot.
I think what he's saying is there should be an incentive to get out of the welfare state. As it stands now there is none.
A great way to end that is to eliminate the income tax altogether and have a consumption tax instead. Gives people an opportunity to save as much as they want sans govt, and eliminates the IRS from the average employee.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:19 pm to papasmurf1269
The goal is to pay $0.
Some people get more withheld on payday than others. That would be my best optimistic guess.
Some people get more withheld on payday than others. That would be my best optimistic guess.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:20 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Someone has to pay for all this shite. So, go frick yourself.
So yes, you want to tax people for just being alive. What an idiot.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:21 pm to PaperTiger
quote:good God. You actually don't fricking know what you're talking about. You're one of these morons who thinks that what you pay or get back in April is your net tax liability. Fair bet you're one of the non-payers
Some people get more withheld on payday than others. That would be my best optimistic guess.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:23 pm to mmcgrath
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If you had a national sales tax, but some people didn't buy anything, would you insist they pay a little sales tax on nothing?
No. Why would you?
Taxes should be voluntary. If someone would rather save their money than have it taxed, then whey should be able to do so. A VAT tax or national sales tax would be a great alternative than forcible income taxes. It rewards those who save.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:25 pm to MrCarton
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Did y'all know 52 million people payed no federal income taxes in 2014
Good. Trynna get that number up 350 milly.
I would assert this framework is probably counter to that goal, if that's your goal.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:25 pm to PaperTiger
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The goal is to pay $0.
Some people get more withheld on payday than others. That would be my best optimistic guess.
Serious question. Let's assume I pay $600/bimonthly to uncle Sam in my federal withholding. April 15 rolls around and I owe exactly nothing to Uncle Sam. Did I pay $14,400 in federal income taxes?
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:25 pm to mmcgrath
quote:They would be self-sufficient farmers. That would be a-okay by me. Does that mean we agree to convert from income to a VAT or sales tax?
If you had a national sales tax, but some people didn't buy anything
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:27 pm to papasmurf1269
quote:So your solution is to tax people with the least money. How does that change anything except your victim complex?
Someone has to pay for all this shite. So, go frick yourself.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:28 pm to mmcgrath
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If you had a national sales tax, but some people didn't buy anything, would you insist they pay a little sales tax on nothing?
This board complains about 30+ year olds who don't want health insurance paying a tax, but apparently some would like people to pay a literal living tax.
A national sales tax would be fine with me if all other taxes were eliminated. This should be done with a Constitutional amendment, the amendment should repeal all income, SS, FICA, estate, capitol gains, etc taxes. Establish a set percentage for the sales tax, and make it illegal to pass any other form of taxation. Also include that congress (house and senate) members will forfeit every asset they have including pensions and benefits if a balanced budget is not passed each year, by a specific date.
Then everyone would have skin in the game, there would be no "fat cat loopholes". Everyone receives the benefits of living in this great nation, everyone should have to pay into it.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:28 pm to papasmurf1269
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This is a damn shame. Why doesn't everybody have to pay at least a little something?
thisi s the biggest cherry picking the data number around. A large percentage of the population pays no federal income tax, but when all taxes (payroll, income, sales, property) are considered you will find that the effective rate of taxation is relatively flat.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:29 pm to papasmurf1269
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Mitt had binders
So did coach O!
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:30 pm to papasmurf1269
Did y'all know that America is an incredibly unequal society?
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